United Thread - 2023/24

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I'm not sure I agree that Saint Rashford is "hugely wasted potential"... I think he's just a bit shit not to mention lazy.

His overhyped "potential" is just, as usual, a figment of the sycophantic media and deluded rag fans.

He's a poor footballer. Decent if you're a team who look for a smash and grab win by getting outplayed and want to catch a team out on the break and need someone to run onto a ball. He'll do a job in that scenario, now and again.

But his general play is actually very poor. Barely creates anything, no real football intelligence, not particularly a good passer of the ball, shirks all defensive responsibility, actually generally lazy unless there might be a goal in it for him. It's not like he even has any finesse either. All his shooting is him just whacking the ball as hard as he can. Sometimes it'll work, mostly it just ends up as a poor attempt.

I really think someone like Adama Traore could do the same job in the United team, basically just run onto a long ball on the break without needing to do much else for the team.
 
More than two paragraphs and I’m normally moving on, but that sir was an EXCELLENT post.

You touched on it, but I think one of our greatest assets is our history of failure and cock ups. This breeds humility and that’s never a bad thing.

The Rags I spoke to Saturday and Sunday couldn’t understand why I wasn’t bullish on the Derby. As a longer serving City fan(first season ticket 86/87 season) I think it’s only natural to be reserved and cautious. It’s in built in us to be humble, to have humility.
That as you say is a great thing to have..

Something they now need..
 
He's a poor footballer. Decent if you're a team who look for a smash and grab win by getting outplayed and want to catch a team out on the break and need someone to run onto a ball. He'll do a job in that scenario, now and again.

But his general play is actually very poor. Barely creates anything, no real football intelligence, not particularly a good passer of the ball, shirks all defensive responsibility, actually generally lazy unless there might be a goal in it for him. It's not like he even has any finesse either. All his shooting is him just whacking the ball as hard as he can. Sometimes it'll work, mostly it just ends up as a poor attempt.

I really think someone like Adama Traore could do the same job in the United team, basically just run onto a long ball on the break without needing to do much else for the team.
Rashford is a fraud. Virtually all his 17 goals for England were against pub teams. Just another media fabrication with a good PR team.
 
Howson Knows a top footballer who wants to play for utd but doesnt know who to contact? What the fuck bullshit do his followers believe everything he says.

Incredible, a TOP player doesn't at least know someone that can't get in touch with man utd?

How is that believable in any way haha
 
Rashford is a fraud. Virtually all his 17 goals for England were against pub teams. Just another media fabrication with a good PR team.

Absolutely

I'm not saying he's completely crap and should be playing in League Two or anything but if he had to come to a team like City, he would get found out very quickly for the very average footballer he is when he would have to show a footballing brain, being comfortable on the ball with technical ability anywhere on the pitch, being able to pass, intrgrate into a detailed way of playing and have a real work ethic on the pitch etc etc

He would fall flat on his face.
 
Rashford is a fraud. Virtually all his 17 goals for England were against pub teams. Just another media fabrication with a good PR team.

I do wonder why some footballers make and some dont.
Rashford is a championship stand perhaps not even that. Some of the goals I see scored at lower level are way above his ability.
His body language is shocking, he his lazy, a one trick pony.

Yet some how he plays in the pl and is an England regular.

I really dont see anything in his play to warrant the level that he plays at
 
Chatting with one of the rare normal rags in the pub the other night, I offered him my perspective and he got it. Hopefully he’s in the very small minority.

I pointed out that since the FA Cup semi final everything they’ve done as a club has been reactionary. Right from the moment the toe sucking ginger pig chopped Zabaleta in half because they couldn’t stand being beaten by the better team.
We saw how they took their loss as they all tried to pile in on Mario. A guy that didn’t seem to give a fuck about much, but he did hate them. But they couldn’t stand that City no longer suffered their nonsense. Ferguson only really encountered Mourinho that didn’t bend over for him. Even Wenger was happy to be the Bruno to his Tyson. Mancini was not, Cook was not, Mubarak was not.

Ever since that day they’ve been reactionary, signing a 30 year old RVP, something that only months before GPC had said United couldn’t do. Something along the lines of ‘United can’t sign established World clad players in silly money’. From that transfer, Rooney, Ferdinand etc all wanted huge wages. The reaction had set in.

GPC knew his race was ran, fucking off and leaving an ageing and vastly overpaid squad.

From here, they still didn’t learn, gpc insisted on Moyes signalling a refusal to accept change or progression.

We got Pellegrini in, we knew it was a transitional manager working towards where we wanted to be. It didn’t need to be instant success but progression.

United longed for the status quo. Moyes would surely pick up where piss can left off, well, he didn’t and in a desperate move to keep up, once again they tried to emulate Ferguson with Louis Long Ball, he understood the United way, so once again they went back to what they knew. High wide wingers, kick n rush football. Not realising this was dead.

We announce Pep. The single most progressive coach of all time(arguably). What did they do? Mourinho. After all this is “Manchester United” and “Manchester United” only know one way.. The ‘United way’. Only the ‘United way’ was becoming more and more outdated. Mourinho suited that. But even if successful, he’d offer zero progression.

Then we saw 4 years of trying to react to all our signings.
One after the other players rocked up there that we’d either identified as a potential player or a cherry on top type signing.
They weren’t at that stage, they needed solid foundations, not players like Sanchez. Did they learn? No. Still going on about “MANchester Uoonited” and the “United way”.

Whilst all this was going on, off the field they were trying to react to what we were doing. Hurrying through FFP, all sorts of other hurdles for us to jump. They were more concerned with stopping us than actually progressing. They’d become Dick Dastardly. Constantly trying to halt our progress rather than grow their own.

It’s not changed, they’re not learning, off the field they’re still trying to hinder what we do, they’d be better emulating and learning from us, but they won’t because their own fucked ego, delusions of grandeur and that fucking “Yoonited Way” simply can’t allow them to acknowledge that it is not only bullshit, but if it were true, it’s so far out of date, they’re trying to recreate glory days rather than create new glory.

Right up until this week, they keep going on, the media will always continue to go on about United being ‘bigger’. How is that fucking measured? JFE at centre back and a half empty stadium on 70 minutes is not and never will be the actions of the biggest club in the World.
Neville harping on about it being Manchester United, Keane going on about what it means to be captain of United. Neville slaughtering the Glazers for not making sure everything they have is the best… Well Gaz, whilst you all long for what once was, you’ll never realise what needs to be. Old Scaffold needs knocking down, or they need to move. They won’t do that.. Why? Because they’re Manchester Yoonited. Not accepting that all the biggest clubs in the World are doing exactly what they think they can’t do. Barca, Real, Atleti, Juventus, Bayern have or are doing what the ‘Nited’ way won’t allow, as they’ll lose their Soul.. Yep, fuck knows what that means a

And Roy, it means fuck all to be captain at United. The club is a fucking shambles. Obviously the captain is going to be a joke, if he had desire, passion, belief, heart and leadership skills, he’s not at United.

All this overseen by GPC, how do you fucking progress with that shadow looming over the club?

Manchester United are Manchester United’s problem. They can’t see it and hopefully never will.
Excellent summary and excellent post mate
 
Chatting with one of the rare normal rags in the pub the other night, I offered him my perspective and he got it. Hopefully he’s in the very small minority.

I pointed out that since the FA Cup semi final everything they’ve done as a club has been reactionary. Right from the moment the toe sucking ginger pig chopped Zabaleta in half because they couldn’t stand being beaten by the better team.
We saw how they took their loss as they all tried to pile in on Mario. A guy that didn’t seem to give a fuck about much, but he did hate them. But they couldn’t stand that City no longer suffered their nonsense. Ferguson only really encountered Mourinho that didn’t bend over for him. Even Wenger was happy to be the Bruno to his Tyson. Mancini was not, Cook was not, Mubarak was not.

Ever since that day they’ve been reactionary, signing a 30 year old RVP, something that only months before GPC had said United couldn’t do. Something along the lines of ‘United can’t sign established World clad players in silly money’. From that transfer, Rooney, Ferdinand etc all wanted huge wages. The reaction had set in.

GPC knew his race was ran, fucking off and leaving an ageing and vastly overpaid squad.

From here, they still didn’t learn, gpc insisted on Moyes signalling a refusal to accept change or progression.

We got Pellegrini in, we knew it was a transitional manager working towards where we wanted to be. It didn’t need to be instant success but progression.

United longed for the status quo. Moyes would surely pick up where piss can left off, well, he didn’t and in a desperate move to keep up, once again they tried to emulate Ferguson with Louis Long Ball, he understood the United way, so once again they went back to what they knew. High wide wingers, kick n rush football. Not realising this was dead.

We announce Pep. The single most progressive coach of all time(arguably). What did they do? Mourinho. After all this is “Manchester United” and “Manchester United” only know one way.. The ‘United way’. Only the ‘United way’ was becoming more and more outdated. Mourinho suited that. But even if successful, he’d offer zero progression.

Then we saw 4 years of trying to react to all our signings.
One after the other players rocked up there that we’d either identified as a potential player or a cherry on top type signing.
They weren’t at that stage, they needed solid foundations, not players like Sanchez. Did they learn? No. Still going on about “MANchester Uoonited” and the “United way”.

Whilst all this was going on, off the field they were trying to react to what we were doing. Hurrying through FFP, all sorts of other hurdles for us to jump. They were more concerned with stopping us than actually progressing. They’d become Dick Dastardly. Constantly trying to halt our progress rather than grow their own.

It’s not changed, they’re not learning, off the field they’re still trying to hinder what we do, they’d be better emulating and learning from us, but they won’t because their own fucked ego, delusions of grandeur and that fucking “Yoonited Way” simply can’t allow them to acknowledge that it is not only bullshit, but if it were true, it’s so far out of date, they’re trying to recreate glory days rather than create new glory.

Right up until this week, they keep going on, the media will always continue to go on about United being ‘bigger’. How is that fucking measured? JFE at centre back and a half empty stadium on 70 minutes is not and never will be the actions of the biggest club in the World.
Neville harping on about it being Manchester United, Keane going on about what it means to be captain of United. Neville slaughtering the Glazers for not making sure everything they have is the best… Well Gaz, whilst you all long for what once was, you’ll never realise what needs to be. Old Scaffold needs knocking down, or they need to move. They won’t do that.. Why? Because they’re Manchester Yoonited. Not accepting that all the biggest clubs in the World are doing exactly what they think they can’t do. Barca, Real, Atleti, Juventus, Bayern have or are doing what the ‘Nited’ way won’t allow, as they’ll lose their Soul.. Yep, fuck knows what that means a

And Roy, it means fuck all to be captain at United. The club is a fucking shambles. Obviously the captain is going to be a joke, if he had desire, passion, belief, heart and leadership skills, he’s not at United.

All this overseen by GPC, how do you fucking progress with that shadow looming over the club?

Manchester United are Manchester United’s problem. They can’t see it and hopefully never will.
I’d agree with everything in there except the trigger point. Rather than the semi final, I reckon it was the Welcome to Manchester poster. I think that really rattled the cunts.
 
Manchester United goalkeeper Andre Onana, 27, has agreed to play for Cameroon at the Africa Cup of Nations in January and could miss seven domestic matches (BBC)

I'm sick of the luck these fuckers get!!!!
I see that as good news, without his saves it would have been 6 on Sunday, he looks a decent shot-stopper as he did in Istanbul. His ability playing out from the back is clearly way overrated but it's a mystery as to why Ten Bob wants that with Slabhead, JFE and Lindelof as the options to pass to.
 
Chatting with one of the rare normal rags in the pub the other night, I offered him my perspective and he got it. Hopefully he’s in the very small minority.

I pointed out that since the FA Cup semi final everything they’ve done as a club has been reactionary. Right from the moment the toe sucking ginger pig chopped Zabaleta in half because they couldn’t stand being beaten by the better team.
We saw how they took their loss as they all tried to pile in on Mario. A guy that didn’t seem to give a fuck about much, but he did hate them. But they couldn’t stand that City no longer suffered their nonsense. Ferguson only really encountered Mourinho that didn’t bend over for him. Even Wenger was happy to be the Bruno to his Tyson. Mancini was not, Cook was not, Mubarak was not.

Ever since that day they’ve been reactionary, signing a 30 year old RVP, something that only months before GPC had said United couldn’t do. Something along the lines of ‘United can’t sign established World clad players in silly money’. From that transfer, Rooney, Ferdinand etc all wanted huge wages. The reaction had set in.

GPC knew his race was ran, fucking off and leaving an ageing and vastly overpaid squad.

From here, they still didn’t learn, gpc insisted on Moyes signalling a refusal to accept change or progression.

We got Pellegrini in, we knew it was a transitional manager working towards where we wanted to be. It didn’t need to be instant success but progression.

United longed for the status quo. Moyes would surely pick up where piss can left off, well, he didn’t and in a desperate move to keep up, once again they tried to emulate Ferguson with Louis Long Ball, he understood the United way, so once again they went back to what they knew. High wide wingers, kick n rush football. Not realising this was dead.

We announce Pep. The single most progressive coach of all time(arguably). What did they do? Mourinho. After all this is “Manchester United” and “Manchester United” only know one way.. The ‘United way’. Only the ‘United way’ was becoming more and more outdated. Mourinho suited that. But even if successful, he’d offer zero progression.

Then we saw 4 years of trying to react to all our signings.
One after the other players rocked up there that we’d either identified as a potential player or a cherry on top type signing.
They weren’t at that stage, they needed solid foundations, not players like Sanchez. Did they learn? No. Still going on about “MANchester Uoonited” and the “United way”.

Whilst all this was going on, off the field they were trying to react to what we were doing. Hurrying through FFP, all sorts of other hurdles for us to jump. They were more concerned with stopping us than actually progressing. They’d become Dick Dastardly. Constantly trying to halt our progress rather than grow their own.

It’s not changed, they’re not learning, off the field they’re still trying to hinder what we do, they’d be better emulating and learning from us, but they won’t because their own fucked ego, delusions of grandeur and that fucking “Yoonited Way” simply can’t allow them to acknowledge that it is not only bullshit, but if it were true, it’s so far out of date, they’re trying to recreate glory days rather than create new glory.

Right up until this week, they keep going on, the media will always continue to go on about United being ‘bigger’. How is that fucking measured? JFE at centre back and a half empty stadium on 70 minutes is not and never will be the actions of the biggest club in the World.
Neville harping on about it being Manchester United, Keane going on about what it means to be captain of United. Neville slaughtering the Glazers for not making sure everything they have is the best… Well Gaz, whilst you all long for what once was, you’ll never realise what needs to be.

**Old Scaffold needs knocking down, or they need to move. They won’t do that.. Why? Because they’re Manchester Yoonited. Not accepting that all the biggest clubs in the World are doing exactly what they think they can’t do. Barca, Real, Atleti, Juventus, Bayern have or are doing what the ‘Nited’ way won’t allow, as they’ll lose their Soul.. Yep, fuck knows what that means a

And Roy, it means fuck all to be captain at United. The club is a fucking shambles. Obviously the captain is going to be a joke, if he had desire, passion, belief, heart and leadership skills, he’s not at United.

All this overseen by GPC, how do you fucking progress with that shadow looming over the club?

Manchester United are Manchester United’s problem. They can’t see it and hopefully never will.
Spot on. Great post. Surprised you found a rag agreeing!
**(Note the San Ciro is about to be demolished.)
It makes no difference if they sack or keep Ten Bob: no manager has much chance while this backward looking arrogance appertains. Besides what first class manager will go there?
If Ineos Jim gets there, the first thing he has to do as a new outside voice is call the crap out and challenge them all. Will he or does he believe in the Yoonited Way?
 
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