United Thread | 2024/25

When ten Hag keeps churning out that he’s won the second most trophy’s after City, it would be funny if somebody asks him if the other teams making the effort to finish above eighth might have had something to do with it!
 
Gazza said:
Two defeats before September has hardly started, another two and that's the league gone, another eight and they're struggling for a CL place - it's just fun, fun times if you hate united.
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The league was gone for them before a ball was kicked.
Just like next season it's gone again already.
Infact it has for a good ten years to come and that's if they're lucky
 
I see that ol' Simon Stone who covers everything at united for the beeb hasn't done the match report today, too painful Si?
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
I said it years ago. There is no united way, they are not footballing royalty like a barca/RM/Bayern, they are NOT waiting to get back to their rightful place at the top.

They are just another team in the PL who happened to have an exceptional manager for a generation. A Spurs, on the decline.

Simon Stone and all their client reporters need to ditch that cllub, but they have the fanbase, and thats all.
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I said it too. It was a Ferguson way.

But that’s not even really the issue. The issue is Ferguson was a egomaniacal autocrat.

That becomes a problem when autocrats leave organiz(s)ations because they have established themselves as the repository of all decisions. Their staff is there to support them, not the organiz(s)ation. Ther staff is not entrusted with leadership abilities nor discretion because that rests with the autocrat.

Autocrats do not care about the shape of the organiz(s)ation when they leave. They don’t care about legacy, because if the organiz(s)ation is successful when they leave, they take credit, and when it isn’t, they take comfort in the fact that it’s because they aren’t a part of it. They can’t lose, legacy-wise.

Ferguson touted “complete control” as a key leadership tenet in his speeches and writings for Harvard Business School in fact.

Forget the football — as an ORGANIZ(S)ATION, United was doomed to fail, and still is — not because of the Glazers, though their leveraged buyout has certainly weakened the pillars financially — but because of Ferguson’s use of the club as a vessel to his own ends without a thought to what it looked like after he left.

Great leaders leave organiz(s)actions in better shape than they found them. Fergusons record as a COACH is unquestioned; as a LEADER he is one of the great shams those who study how businesses operate can point to.
 
Picking someone up at the train station so have Talkshite on. Some Rag saying he felt sorry for Casemiro. The people in the studio saying Mainoo was the best Rag player and both agreed he had a good game. No point really is there. Some players gave a narrative set. Exactly the same as Sir Fish Fingers.....how many fans out there genuinely believe he is a 30 goal a season player.
 
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