United Thread | 2025/26

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BlueHammer85 said:
They haven’t , that’s just your perception.
Every club feels officials and var works against them. It’s boring.
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Its really odd that you continue to take this tack when its demonstrably clear that arsenal, dippers and rags get decisions given to them via var that other clubs quite simply do not, there have been multiple occurrences this season alone where the exact same offence was committed and one decision was given to one team and not to another, the sheer lack on consistency and these non subjective decisions would show anyone but the most myopic of viewers that certain teams are favoured over others, this is not opinion or hyperbole to be easily brushed off as the rant of a bias football fan who doesnt know any better it is demonstrable fact.
 
mancboy said:
Its really odd that you continue to take this tack when its demonstrably clear that arsenal, dippers and rags get decisions given to them via var that other clubs quite simply do not, there have been multiple occurrences this season alone where the exact same offence was committed and one decision was given to one team and not to another, the sheer lack on consistency and these non subjective decisions would show anyone but the most myopic of viewers that certain teams are favoured over others, this is not opinion or hyperbole to be easily brushed off as the rant of a bias football fan who doesnt know any better it is demonstrable fact.
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Fair enough, I don’t see it personally, I watch loads of prem games and see some teams get some slight favourable decisions go there way at times but I don’t see any conspiracy.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Fair enough, I don’t see it personally, I watch loads of prem games and see some teams get some slight favourable decisions go there way at times but I don’t see any conspiracy.
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Conspiracy would suggest there was one but if you watch loads of prem games surely you can see the evidence when one decision is given to one team and a decision for the exact same offence is not given to another team, like i said it is easy to dismiss such things as bias football fans thinking that the whole world is against them and thats how the pl get away with but if you look at it with a completely objective and dispassionate eye it is fundamentally the case.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Fair enough, I don’t see it personally, I watch loads of prem games and see some teams get some slight favourable decisions go there way at times but I don’t see any conspiracy.
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It’s not a conspiracy. More like institutional bias. Some referees are scared of upsetting the bigger clubs because they know they will get hammered in the media. There is also a bias towards home teams. Refs are just covering their own backs. It has always happened. I think City have actually been treated better since our success.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
It’s not a conspiracy. More like institutional bias.
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Commercially motivated institutional bias. It's how the interests of those specific Clubs that see themselves (and are considered to be so by those running the game) as the more significant contributors to the financial profitability of the premier league are protected.
 
1961_vintage said:
Commercially motivated institutional bias. It's how the interests of those specific Clubs that see themselves (and are considered to be so by those running the game) as the more significant contributors to the financial profitability of the premier league are protected.
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Absolutely. The media push LFC and MUFC because it is profitable. The refs know they will be slaughtered if they make harsh decisions affecting these clubs. It is subtle and institutional bias. It is not overt corruption but just as insidious.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Fair enough, I don’t see it personally, I watch loads of prem games and see some teams get some slight favourable decisions go there way at times but I don’t see any conspiracy.
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Slight favourable decision?? They are rather favourable or not, there's no slight about it.
Considering var only get used on big game changing decision like a red card,offside goal, penalty call,what is slight in your opinion??
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Fair enough, I don’t see it personally, I watch loads of prem games and see some teams get some slight favourable decisions go there way at times but I don’t see any conspiracy.
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Only one way Rashford isn't interfering with play a bent ref or bent var. I can't remember var reason for allowing this goal.

Rashford was a yard off side, ran after the ball blocking the defender and allowing Eddy to set himself for a Rashford shot. How the fuck can Rashford not be interfering ?
 
give it to gordon said:
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Only one way Rashford isn't interfering with play a bent ref or bent var. I can't remember var reason for allowing this goal.

Rashford was a yard off side, ran after the ball blocking the defender and allowing Eddy to set himself for a Rashford shot. How the fuck can Rashford not be interfering ?
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Yes , that was farcical , ridiculous decision and a cock up from officials.

I can point to loads of farcical decisions that have gone in favour or against pretty much every PL team in recent years - especially West Ham , clearly a agenda against us.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Yes , that was farcical , ridiculous decision and a cock up from officials.

I can point to loads of farcical decisions that have gone in favour or against pretty much every PL team in recent years - especially West Ham , clearly a agenda against us.
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But var is to stop farcical decisions. He was clearly interfering there is absolutely no legal way it could be ruled not to be interfering.
 
give it to gordon said:
But var is to stop farcical decisions. He was clearly interfering there is absolutely no legal way it could be ruled not to be interfering.
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It has and will reduce farcical decisions but they will still happen and my god we won’t hear the end when it’s against someone’s own team. It will never eradicate bad decisions , I’ve always said that.

What it has done is highlighted how many blatant offside goals would have stood without var , how many red card offences would have been unpunished, how many goals should not have stood. But of course, highlighting any positives is a no go.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
It has and will reduce farcical decisions but they will still happen and my god we won’t hear the end when it’s against someone’s own team. It will never eradicate bad decisions , I’ve always said that.

What it has done is highlighted how many blatant offside goals would have stood without var , how many red card offences would have been unpunished, how many goals should not have stood. But of course, highlighting any positives is a no go.
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In my mind they is absolutely no reason to allow that Rashford off side decision. It is impossible not to rule it off side nothing. Impossible to say he wasn't interfering.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Yes , that was farcical , ridiculous decision and a cock up from officials.

I can point to loads of farcical decisions that have gone in favour or against pretty much every PL team in recent years - especially West Ham , clearly a agenda against us.
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Fine, then please provide an example of an equally "farcical and ridiculous" decision that has gone against united.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Fair enough, I don’t see it personally, I watch loads of prem games and see some teams get some slight favourable decisions go there way at times but I don’t see any conspiracy.
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You'll notice it when you watch the rags, Liverpool or Arsenal games.

You will never see a player of one of the above clubs getting booked in the opponents eighteen yard box for simulation.

The VAR team may overturn a penalty shout for them but the player won't pick up a booking for being the cheating bastard they are.

Watch how many defenders give away free kicks for marking the striker too tight while he's trying to hold the ball up, then watch how Haaland gets marked almost every game and nothing is given.
 
give it to gordon said:
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Only one way Rashford isn't interfering with play a bent ref or bent var. I can't remember var reason for allowing this goal.

Rashford was a yard off side, ran after the ball blocking the defender and allowing Eddy to set himself for a Rashford shot. How the fuck can Rashford not be interfering ?
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The main isue with this is that Attwell overuled his linesman who correctly flagged offside after Rashford shielded the ball for 30 yards. And then he didn't even bother looking at the screen. Of course the tape of the conversations has never been revealed.
 
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