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Blue Mist said:
I merely mentioned the police force to show who was running that area. I could have said schools/education authority or similar, ie. fire brigade, bin collection.
Lancashire local government stopped running Manchester in 1853 and the border of Old Trafford/Manchester was created.
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It was actually 1889 that Lancashire stopped administering Manchester in terms of those services but that’s besides the point, Manchester was still in Lancashire geographically - officially. Those reforms happened because of the population swell and need to do so. Nobody in 1889 or any time after that, up until 1974, ever stated Manchester was no longer Lancashire.

Old Trafford has never been in the City of Manchester anyway.
 
Ban-jani said:
It was actually 1889 that Lancashire stopped administering Manchester in terms of those services but that’s besides the point, Manchester was still in Lancashire geographically - officially. Those reforms happened because of the population swell and need to do so. Nobody in 1889 or any time after that, up until 1974, ever stated Manchester was no longer Lancashire.

Old Trafford has never been in the City of Manchester anyway.
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So basically City has been the ONLY Manchester club ?
 
.db. said:
Manchester had a separate FA from the 1800s to Lancashire n’all.

But Manchester was part of Lancashire until 1974.

The historical border of Lancashire was always the River Mersey. That goes back to before Lancashire existed where it was also the border of Cheshire and the old county of Inter Ripam et Mersam, which meant between the Ribble and Mersey.
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I remember Reddish Police station had a Lancashire Constabulary coat of arms above its door when I was a kid in the seventies.
 
On the Lancashire debate, all I know for sure is that my 1965 birth certificate states that I was born in Saint Mary’s Hospital, Manchester, Lancashire.
 
Scaley said:
I remember Reddish Police station had a Lancashire Constabulary coat of arms above its door when I was a kid in the seventies.
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Reddish is north of the Mersey and west of The Tame.
Anything south of the Mersey and / or east of the Tame was Cheshire.

Anyway, the commentator here (from 1934) knows exactly what county Manchester was in.
 
pride in battle said:
So basically City has been the ONLY Manchester club ?
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Not quite. There was a period where Utd played in Newton Heath, in their early years, when it was in Manchester. They also played at Maine Road in the 40s and some midweek games in the 50s, although we can argue they were just borrowing it.

Then there was Manchester Central, but they never made it into the Football League.

1910 is a good year to throw in the faces of Rags, it’s the year they officially moved out of the city to set up their new home in Old Trafford, a place that’s never been Manchester.

City are the only Manchester club, to be a football league side, that’s ALWAYS been in Manchester.
 
Ban-jani said:
Not quite. There was a period where Utd played in Newton Heath, in their early years, when it was in Manchester. They also played at Maine Road in the 40s and some midweek games in the 50s, although we can argue they were just borrowing it.

Then there was Manchester Central, but they never made it into the Football League.

1910 is a good year to throw in the faces of Rags, it’s the year they officially moved out of the city to set up their new home in Old Trafford, a place that’s never been Manchester.

City are the only Manchester club, to be a football league side, that’s ALWAYS been in Manchester.
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A northern version of MK Dons then?
 
Ban-jani said:
Not quite. There was a period where Utd played in Newton Heath, in their early years, when it was in Manchester. They also played at Maine Road in the 40s and some midweek games in the 50s, although we can argue they were just borrowing it.

Then there was Manchester Central, but they never made it into the Football League.

1910 is a good year to throw in the faces of Rags, it’s the year they officially moved out of the city to set up their new home in Old Trafford, a place that’s never been Manchester.

City are the only Manchester club, to be a football league side, that’s ALWAYS been in Manchester.
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Isn’t the swamp closer to Salford, which is another city on the other side of the Irwell? If you started calling staunch Salford folk Mancunians they’d be non too pleased, why a football team that plays in one of the boroughs of Greater Manchester calls itself Manchester is beyond me. They are no more Manchester than Wigan or Bolton.

They play their men’s home games in Trafford and their women’s games in Leigh. Their fans are all from London, what do they actually have to do with the City of Manchester?
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Isn’t the swamp closer to Salford, which is another city on the other side of the Irwell? If you started calling staunch Salford folk Mancunians they’d be non too pleased, why a football team that plays in one of the boroughs of Greater Manchester calls itself Manchester is beyond me. They are no more Manchester than Wigan or Bolton.

They play their men’s home games in Trafford and their women’s games in Leigh. Their fans are all from London, what do they actually have to do with the City of Manchester?
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They’ve been hitchhiking off the back of our name since 1902.
 
Ban-jani said:
They’ve been hitchhiking off the back of our name since 1902.
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There’s an easy solution to their ground plans that wouldn’t cost the public purse £300 million to move a freight terminal. The AJ Bell stadium is being run at a loss to the local authorities, there’s plenty of land there to build their 100,000 seater vanity project if they knocked the existing stadium down, Salford council would probably take their hand off for the money.
 
Ban-jani said:
Not quite. There was a period where Utd played in Newton Heath, in their early years, when it was in Manchester. They also played at Maine Road in the 40s and some midweek games in the 50s, although we can argue they were just borrowing it.

Then there was Manchester Central, but they never made it into the Football League.

1910 is a good year to throw in the faces of Rags, it’s the year they officially moved out of the city to set up their new home in Old Trafford, a place that’s never been Manchester.

City are the only Manchester club, to be a football league side, that’s ALWAYS been in Manchester.
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I'm not 100% sure but didn't someone on here say that Newton Heath was actually in Lancashire when the rags played there and wasn't part of Manchester till years after the scummy fuckers moved to the swamp.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
There’s an easy solution to their ground plans that wouldn’t cost the public purse £300 million to move a freight terminal. The AJ Bell stadium is being run at a loss to the local authorities, there’s plenty of land there to build their 100,000 seater vanity project if they knocked the existing stadium down, Salford council would probably take their hand off for the money.
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Hey stop pinching Gary neville vanity project
 
blue by birth said:
I'm not 100% sure but didn't someone on here say that Newton Heath was actually in Lancashire when the rags played there and wasn't part of Manchester till years after the scummy fuckers moved to the swamp.
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I thinkk NH was incorporated into Manchester c.1890 ish...Newton Heath as a FC was there before that, not sure when they moved out...it may be assumed that they moved out to avoid being within the City of Manchester...
 
Ban-jani said:
Not quite. There was a period where Utd played in Newton Heath, in their early years, when it was in Manchester. They also played at Maine Road in the 40s and some midweek games in the 50s, although we can argue they were just borrowing it.

Then there was Manchester Central, but they never made it into the Football League.

1910 is a good year to throw in the faces of Rags, it’s the year they officially moved out of the city to set up their new home in Old Trafford, a place that’s never been Manchester.

City are the only Manchester club, to be a football league side, that’s ALWAYS been in Manchester.
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The rags also played in Clayton on Bank Street
 
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