United Thread | 2025/26

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Gazza said:
They mustn't mean the full 90 minutes then because that 'Gerrard' final he was terrible in the first half (HT 0-3) and only decided to turn up once they'd changed ends.
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And united got battered for most the game, Bayern should have been out of site, I'm sure they hit the bar 2-3 times.
Fun fact that was uniteds 5th win in that campaign.
 
Yet another powder puff story about the rags on the BBC’s sports website, this time it’s about how the pisscan was so determined to take shrek to the swamp that he went back a second time.

There’s no name attached to the article, but I’d hazard a guess that Slimy Stone was all over it

And no, I haven’t read it:

www.bbc.co.uk

Wayne Rooney Show: How Sir Alex Ferguson twice moved to sign striker from Everton

Everton boss David Moyes reveals on the latest episode of the Wayne Rooney Show the inside story on Wayne Rooney's move to Manchester United - with Sir Alex Ferguson twice making moves to sign the then teenage striker.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
malg said:
Unfortunately we have a lot of younger fans who have no idea how insufferable these cunts are. They've no idea of their absolute arrogance when the piss can was there and have no memory of that fucking trophy banner.

These lot are cunts and always will be.
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We also have a lot of younger fans who have been brought up correctly and educated regarding the SCUM from Trafford. Safe in the knowledge that our CITY is BLUE and always has been.
 
Hi, probably not staying, but just signed up to give my thoughts on Bruno Fernandes. I could write more but this is enough Hopefully some of you will enjoy reading them:

For me, he's without doubt the most overrated player I have seen in a while - selfish and makes the team worse through needing to bend to his will, like Ronaldo. Can't slow the game down or control it, tries Hollywood balls ALL THE TIME and turns games into basketball matches just to get his meaningless assists that lead to zero trophies - plus, for a stats merchant, his goalscoring record outside penalties is terrible. His qualitative game is awful.

David Silva was much much better than him, but stats and PR merchants will rate this guy higher, makes me sick.

Iniesta never got good stats but was 100 times the player Fernandes is. Just his ball mastery, vision, football IQ, ability to slow or speed the game up pissed on Fernandes. Stats merchants' arguments are destroyed by the fact that Iniesta got far lower stats in a far better team - yet is one of the best midfielders ever and a miles better player than Fernandes. Goes to show it's how you fit into a team and make it better; not useless stats in isolation.

So overrated and typically hyped well beyond his ability just like most Man United players. Anyone who understands tactical play and controlling games would never rate this guy as top class.

He's also a woeful dribbler, useless on the half turn and without space. Too many people just look at stats without actually looking at quality - the same way the quality of Messi's goals and assists were generally much higher than Ronaldo's, De Bruyne's degree of difficulty for his assists was higher than Fernandes's.

There's also this weird belief in football that playing for a better team automatically means stats will improve. As if Fernandes would suddenly double his stats playing for Man City or Barcelona. No. He is indulged well beyond what he deserves at United and this allows him to pad his stats. At a better team he'd just be another player rather than the guy everything goes through. This sort of logic would lead someone to conclude that Kevin Phillips would score many more goals at Real Madrid than the bucketload he scored at Sunderland - football doesn't generally work that way or scale up like that.

There's a reason Fernandes is stuck at a failure of a club like United and why no elite team has came in for him. At that club everything goes through him so he can pad his stats while there's a limit on what they can achieve, due to him being useless in a non counter attack system. Don't get me wrong, they're woeful without him too - but he doesn't move the needle for them at all.
 
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Keep hearing about the 'amazing job' Carrick is doing. Let's look at the facts:

They have played the least amount of games any of the 92 English league clubs can. Their least for over 100 years. Their coping that 'it's hard to build rhythm with one game a week' - is exactly that. Sports scientists have proved the benefits of more time to rest vastly outweigh any perceived 'match rhythm' issues. Next season they'll have a way bigger workload.

I am not a big one for stats, but their expected goals for and against don't look much better than Amorim's, might even be marginally worse. They're still conceding lots of goals too.

Their performances have been very inferior to results. They've won a lot of games under Carrick they really didn't deserve to, or that were in the balance. They played City when City had no defence really, Chelsea and Liverpool were poor when they met them (and even then Liverpool did all the attacking, United just sat back and hit them on the break effectively, and Chelsea hit the woodwork serveral times) and Arsenal was a tight game won in the last minute with a great Cunha strike.

They seem to play against teams missing their best player a lot. In fact, so often teams have been missing key players against them that it feels like the officials are purposely booking or sending players off so they won't be able to play against United in following games.

Carrick himself - not to do the lazy 'he's just Ole mark II!' thing again - but it's actually true. Like Ole, he is a wet lettuce - he comes across as supremely simple and lacking tactical IQ, knowledge of the game, charisma etc. There's no reason to believe he will buck the trend of all of Ferguson's acolytes being awful managers (and that's one of many reasons you can argue Ferguson is an overrated manager himself, but that's another debate entirely) and somehow start leading them to glory.

Their squad is very very average. Not many good players there at all.

They are still hampered by their debt and even if they do buy some good players, it's just kicking the can down the road. Also, INEOS have proved themselves totally clueless with some of their buys and their dawdling over Ten Hag and Amorim when anyone with half a brain knew they were failing.

Overall, they're in a false position. I tend to think United get more points most seasons than they truly deserve and the same was true this season. Even last season, finishing 15th, their performances warranted relegation.

I won't mention too much the favouritism from the officials and VAR - they routinely get decisions not a single other club would, the latest being the Forest debacle. This won't change and is the biggest positive they can hold onto for next season.

However, the evidence for it falling apart next season is fucking overwhelming. So don't fret. Let the more clueless of the cunts on Redcafe act like this is them back - the deluded 'everything is brilliant' Top Reds have been proved absolute fucking morons and constantly wrong for many years now. They have to believe this is the right one because as mostly glory hunters their self-esteem is wrapped up in United doing well, and Carrick failing would be one false dawn too many and surely utterly break them.
 
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Davie82 said:
Keep hearing about the 'amazing job' Carrick is doing. Let's look at the facts:

They have played the least amount of games any of the 92 English league clubs can. Their least for over 100 years. Their coping that 'it's hard to build rhythm with one game a week' - is exactly that. Sports scientists have proved the benefits of more time to rest vastly outweigh any perceived 'match rhythm' issues. Next season they'll have a way bigger workload.

I am not a big one for stats, but their expected goals for and against don't look much better than Amorim's, might even be marginally worse. They're still conceding lots of goals too.

Their performances have been very inferior to results. They've won a lot of games under Carrick they really didn't deserve to, or that were in the balance. They played City when City had no defence really, Chelsea and Liverpool were poor when they met them (and even then Liverpool did all the attacking, United just sat back and hit them on the break effectively, and Chelsea hit the woodwork serveral times) and Arsenal was a tight game won in the last minute with a great Cunha strike.

They seem to play against teams missing their best player a lot. In fact, so often teams have been missing key players against them that it feels like the officials are purposely booking or sending players off so they won't be able to play against United in following games.

Carrick himself - not to do the lazy 'he's just Ole mark II!' thing again - but it's actually true. Like Ole, he is a wet lettuce - he comes across as supremely simple and lacking tactical IQ, knowledge of the game, charisma etc. There's no reason to believe he will buck the trend of all of Ferguson's acolytes being awful managers (and that's one of many reasons you can argue Ferguson is an overrated manager himself, but that's another debate entirely) and somehow start leading them to glory.

Their squad is very very average. Not many good players there at all.

They are still hampered by their debt and even if they do buy some good players, it's just kicking the can down the road. Also, INEOS have proved themselves totally clueless with some of their buys and their dawdling over Ten Hag and Amorim when anyone with half a brain knew they were failing.

Overall, they're in a false position. I tend to think United get more points most seasons than they truly deserve and the same was true this season. Even last season, finishing 15th, their performances warranted relegation.

I won't mention too much the favouritism from the officials and VAR - they routinely get decisions not a single other club would, the latest being the Forest debacle. This won't change and is the biggest positive they can hold onto for next season.

However, the evidence for it falling apart next season is fucking overwhelming. So don't fret. Let the more clueless of the cunts on Redcafe act like this is them back - the deluded 'everything is brilliant' Top Reds have been proved absolute fucking morons and constantly wrong for many years now. They have to believe this is the right one because as mostly glory hunters their self-esteem is wrapped up in United doing well, and Carrick failing would be one false dawn too many and surely utterly break them.
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Very good post, welcome.

Just one thing though, united if you must write it has a small u or just use rags like 99% of us,
 
Davie82 said:
Hi, probably not staying, but just signed up to give my thoughts on Bruno Fernandes. I could write more but this is enough Hopefully some of you will enjoy reading them:

For me, he's without doubt the most overrated player I have seen in a while - selfish and makes the team worse through needing to bend to his will, like Ronaldo. Can't slow the game down or control it, tries Hollywood balls ALL THE TIME and turns games into basketball matches just to get his meaningless assists that lead to zero trophies - plus, for a stats merchant, his goalscoring record outside penalties is terrible. His qualitative game is awful.

David Silva was much much better than him, but stats and PR merchants will rate this guy higher, makes me sick.

Iniesta never got good stats but was 100 times the player Fernandes is. Just his ball mastery, vision, football IQ, ability to slow or speed the game up pissed on Fernandes. Stats merchants' arguments are destroyed by the fact that Iniesta got far lower stats in a far better team - yet is one of the best midfielders ever and a miles better player than Fernandes. Goes to show it's how you fit into a team and make it better; not useless stats in isolation.

So overrated and typically hyped well beyond his ability just like most Man United players. Anyone who understands tactical play and controlling games would never rate this guy as top class.

He's also a woeful dribbler, useless on the half turn and without space. Too many people just look at stats without actually looking at quality - the same way the quality of Messi's goals and assists were generally much higher than Ronaldo's, De Bruyne's degree of difficulty for his assists was higher than Fernandes's.

There's also this weird belief in football that playing for a better team automatically means stats will improve. As if Fernandes would suddenly double his stats playing for Man City or Barcelona. No. He is indulged well beyond what he deserves at United and this allows him to pad his stats. At a better team he'd just be another player rather than the guy everything goes through. This sort of logic would lead someone to conclude that Kevin Phillips would score many more goals at Real Madrid than the bucketload he scored at Sunderland - football doesn't generally work that way or scale up like that.

There's a reason Fernandes is stuck at a failure of a club like United and why no elite team has came in for him. At that club everything goes through him so he can pad his stats while there's a limit on what they can achieve, due to him being useless in a non counter attack system. Don't get me wrong, they're woeful without him too - but he doesn't move the needle for them at all.
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Great post. Bang on the money.
 
citymad said:
Blue tinted glasses on there fella. Fernandes is a VERY good player.Deserves to be up there with top assists. Rags wouldnt be where they are without him. Question? would you have him for CIty if he had no ties to the rags?
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RAGS are where they are because of him.
Only 40 fixtures in a full season under his captaincy.
He's a decent player in a shite team with no leadership skills.
To answer your question  NO.
 
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