US & Israel attack Iran

I have a few Iranian friends, students and colleagues.

The general consensus is the regime must end, but they don’t want it at the hands of the Americans or Israeli’s.
Thats the feeling I get reading around.

But lets be clear, the Iranian people WILL be worse off after this.

Makes me laugh all the war apologists, good versus evil, right and wrong, Iran are terrorists, the poor iranian people... Just call a spade a spade, America are doing the same as Russia, taking territory whilst trying to tell everyone its to fight nazi's or terrorists, or to help the poor people. Its a vote chasing, money making, power grab. The last thing any of them care about is the people.
 
Its laughable how literally everything Trump and his cronies campaigned on meant nothing and his voters wont even care that he spits on them.

No new wars, specially mentioning Iran, previously saying Obama will cause the US to go to war with Iran because he cant negotiate, Steven Goebbels (miller) saying Kamala will send your sons to war. Every single thing they say is projection and I dont understand how the voters take being lied to over and over without questioning anything.
 
Laugh all you like but they were literally told to leave where they were and move elsewhere.

You need to make your mind up, either they were told to move and were displaced or they weren’t.

Anyway off to Leeds now, some of us actually watch the games rather than be cheerleaders for the like of Hamas and Hezbollah
Didn't realise that was an either/or situation. Or is it possible to watch the game while simultaneously holding a political affiliation and/ or opinions?
 




For all Trumps many, pathological, faults I did expect the USA to keep their bombing targeted to military and government buildings. This ain’t their first rodeo in Iran and usually they manage to do that.

But I guess when Israel is involved levelling schools is par for the course.

It’s hardly going to encourage the Iranians to take to the streets and overthrow the regime like Trump is asking, just lose the even support of the anti-regime Iranians that wanted outside involvement.
 
Someone will correct me if I’m incorrect, but didn’t Thump need Congress approval before creating havoc?
Technically only congress can declare war. But in reality all sorts gets done without calling ut a war and when you have spineless congress like we have now there is no push back. If dems regain control then they could make these things very uncomfortable but even then I don't think they can stop the potus giving orders to strike targets.
 
Its laughable how literally everything Trump and his cronies campaigned on meant nothing and his voters wont even care that he spits on them.

No new wars, specially mentioning Iran, previously saying Obama will cause the US to go to war with Iran because he cant negotiate, Steven Goebbels (miller) saying Kamala will send your sons to war. Every single thing they say is projection and I dont understand how the voters take being lied to over and over without questioning anything.

There is a sizeable amount of discontent among MAGA at the Greenland, Cuba and Iran stuff because they did care about “No more wars”. I wouldn’t say it’s at the point of splitting them because ultimately I think that was quite low down on most MAGA agendas after deportations and anti-LGBT stuff, removing women’s rights and general “owning the libs”.

His board of peace stuff is also quite unpopular because of the $10Bn theft from the taxpayers.

But there have been some quite prominent MAGA podcasters/influencers unhappy with this, and that was before today.
 
Its laughable how literally everything Trump and his cronies campaigned on meant nothing and his voters wont even care that he spits on them.

No new wars, specially mentioning Iran, previously saying Obama will cause the US to go to war with Iran because he cant negotiate, Steven Goebbels (miller) saying Kamala will send your sons to war. Every single thing they say is projection and I dont understand how the voters take being lied to over and over without questioning anything.

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Iranian tv reporting fifty killed in a school

Those are 50 innocent children who have (or had) dreams of growing up and living life.

Utterly stupid decision by the two remorseless partners of pro-war. Why do children have to be killed as collateral?

Anyways, off to the game but I do feel riled up. There have been children already being killed in Gaza.

Stupid and baseless.
 
Seems to be confirmed it was an Israeli attack so whether it hit its intended target or not is unclear.
I assume that anything Israel is doing is by missile, because I doubt their aircraft wouls make it that far through Saudi airspace without being shot down ? The americans can use planes from their carrier.

Interesting to note that Oman seems to be carrying on flying as normal in their airspace.
 

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