US & Israel attack Iran

[Kirkstall Blue]

Zelenskyy proposes an ETNU, EU Turkey, Norway and Ukraine defensive alliance. I’d like to see this I think it could work? it would be safer with Zelensky on board with his battle experience in defence

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

Zelenskyy proposes an ETNU, EU Turkey, Norway and Ukraine defensive alliance. I’d like to see this I think it could work?

How does that work when one of the members is already involved in a conflict?

 

[urban genie]

When you disagree with every single word sometimes it’s best to just not bother even trying to reply.

Invite Russia in?

Stop it ffs.

jesus is it so hard

I am on about the early 90s not now

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

I bet they are shitting themselves.

Even the Russkies are saying Iran has him by his golfballs!

 

[grunge]

How does that work when one of the members is already involved in a conflict?

Id guess a no retroactive involvement clause but maybe one that strengthen/enforces support.

 

[blueinsa]

jesus is it so hard

I am on about the early 90s not now

Still no better.

They’ve never been a partner in any sense of the word worthy of admittance into an organisation whose existence is based on being able to defend an attack from them along with notable others.

 

[Ban-jani]

Zelenskyy proposes an ETNU, EU Turkey, Norway and Ukraine defensive alliance. I’d like to see this I think it could work? it would be safer with Zelensky on board with his battle experience in defence

As much as I admire Zelenskyy, that would immediately draw us into WW3. A return to the EU is a must now and an EU military is absolutely needed quickly, though.

 

[mosssideblue]

As much as I admire Zelenskyy, that would immediately draw us into WW3. A return to the EU is a must now and an EU military is absolutely needed quickly, though.

Why would it immediately draw us into a WW?

 

[Ban-jani]

Why would it immediately draw us into a WW?

Because we’d be fighting Russia immediately upon the defensive pact being signed.

 

[East Level 2]

Not if Mossad has a load of dirt on Trump, in which case it will be latter who will bend and twist to save himself.

Any dirt on Trump, whoever holds it, becomes worthless in 30 months time. Unless Mango-man cancels the election.
And he's hardly a picture of health so the dirt may devalue even earlier.

 

[mosssideblue]

Because we’d be fighting Russia immediately upon the defensive pact being signed.

You think so

 

[Ban-jani]

You think so

Surely we’d have to be?

 

[remember arthur mann]

Ffs Zelensky, Netanyahu, Russian Oligarchs BBC. We've got your number fook off.

 

[Irwell]

Ffs Zelensky, Netanyahu, Russian Oligarchs BBC. We've got your number fook off.

What are you talking about?

 

[remember arthur mann]

What are you talking about?

Glad you're awake.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Is there a polymarket on how long the talks last?

Vance is ordered not to actually attend on some imaginary pretext
Chairs the wrong colour
Not enough flags
Iran dares to have an opinion
Vance issues a non-negotiable and absurd diktat and then walks out when it isn't immediately accepted
Vance issues a non-negotiable and absurd diktat and Iranian delegation walks out
There is a deliberate religion-based insult

 

[Gabriel]

Why is the US sending Vance and not its negotiators extraordinaire Kushner and Witkoff? Having ended the war in Ukraine and brought peace to Gaza, their diplomatic prowess will be sorely missed in Islamabad…

 

[mosssideblue]

Surely we’d have to be?

Not if the alliance isn’t agreed until after the current conflict

 

[BlueAnorak]

As much as I admire Zelenskyy, that would immediately draw us into WW3. A return to the EU is a must now and an EU military is absolutely needed quickly, though.

Why?
We either support Ukraine to the hilt or support Russia by doing fuck all.
You have been listening too much to Putin propaganda.

 

[bridgeno1]

I don't want to jump to conclusions here but where was Phil Foden when the first missiles hit?