US & Israel attack Iran

Metal Biker said:
You're angry we didn't do anything for the Palestinians, and angry we've tried to help the Iranians?

'Tis an odd stance you hold.
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Here’s how to help the Iranians:

Don’t start the US economic sanctions on Iran that directly affect the Iranians.

Deal with the Iran government, not the Iran people.

Iranians are protesting because of the inflation and economic crises, not because of religious taboo.

The Iranians can fend themselves to be more religiously liberal as generations evolve and they are doing just that as the morality police is losing and liberalism improving. That’s not what the protest is about. The protest is about hardships and economy crises.

What they don’t have control over is the economy, particarly when a few outsiders have tight strangehold over them. This is Venezuela 2.0. Like Venezuela, it wasn’t internal strife, it was outsider intervention.

Of course Iranians protests. They have sudden very limited water, very limited electricity, very limited Internet, banking is limited, flights are limited.

When did the US start the first sanction on Iran. 1979. What did the US do on Iran’s economy? They froze Iran’s asset of US$12 billion. That was the first sanction. The sanctions became more and more for the 40+ years after. What country can prosper when they are not given the chance to?
 
Metal Biker said:
So, not what I was talking about.

Odd that you replied to it then.
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Exactly what were you talking about when you posted it was something that needed to be done to protect the suffering, oppressed people of Iran?

It's done, how has it eased their suffering?
They will get bombed to fuck, Trump will get bored and walk away.
 
Postman Pep said:
Reality check for the delusional one

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The leadership spent 30 odd years financing Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and facilitated isolated attacks across the world. The list of organisations they sponsored is pretty extensive to the point i find it hard to believe people living there didn’t price in the possibility it would eventually land on their doorstep.
 
cookster said:
Exactly what were you talking about when you posted it was something that needed to be done to protect the suffering, oppressed people of Iran?

It's done, how has it eased their suffering?
They will get bombed to fuck, Trump will get bored and walk away.
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Bombed by who? The regime itself? More reason for the rest of the world to rally together and step in if Trumpy walks away, to ensure that doesn't happen, right?
 
In the last 30 years the number of civilians killed by foreign militaries. Easily the winner the US and their allies in the 2 gulf wars plus Afghanistan, Syria.

This dwarfs the tens of thousands killed by Russia in the Ukraine and Israel in Gaza.

Iran? Well it doesn't feature at the top of the league table although I grant you its proxies in the area have killed thousands no doubt.

But most dangerous country on the planet. Not even close.
 
Giovinco said:
So you’re not happy in the slightest that the head of a regime who murdered its own civilians and plotted numerous attacks on UK soil has been removed?
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They're not mutually exclusive, you can be happy he's gone but, also have grave concerns about another destabilising war in the middle East.
 
cookster said:
Exactly what were you talking about when you posted it was something that needed to be done to protect the suffering, oppressed people of Iran?

It's done, how has it eased their suffering?
They will get bombed to fuck, Trump will get bored and walk away.
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The Israelis - by their own admission - intend to keep bombing Iran until the current regime begins to lose its grip on power, however long that takes. Once that happens, the bombing will stop and some sort of power struggle (i.e., civil war) will break out.

No actor in this war has altruistic aims - it's all about wiping out Iran's nuclear program and destroying current leadership, no matter how many bombs must be dropped. And damn the civilian casualties and suffering.
 
We've got Guardiola said:
This isn't an attack on Iran, many Iranians wanted this to happen! This is an attack on the Iranian government so civilian casualties are small.

What about when the Iranian government killed tens of thousands of its own people last month? Where is your bleeding heart for them?

30%+ of Iranians live in outright poverty because the Iranian government prioritises death over its own people. And again people think they should be allowed to have nuclear weapons? Laughable.
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Your last paragraph is total bollocks. The population of Iran is around 92 million so there is around 30 million living in poverty. Whereas the US has a population of the US is around 345 million with around 36 million living in poverty.
Percentages are meaningless. America is supposed to be the great Superpower. In the case of the US they are more concerned with flexing their military muscle rather than looking after their own
 
Giovinco said:
So you’re not happy in the slightest that the head of a regime who murdered its own civilians and plotted numerous attacks on UK soil has been removed?
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Oh I'm over the moon.

And it's certainly worth it, right? I mean, this
www.kvue.com

FBI investigating 'potential nexus to terrorism' in 6th Street shooting that left two dead, 14 injured | Shooter also killed

The Austin Police Department says 3 people are dead, including the suspect, and 14 were injured after a shooting just before 2 a.m. The FBI is also involved.
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is just the tip of the iceberg for direct US domestic impact. And hell, the FBI is in great shape under Trump and Kash Patel, having fucking gutted the agency.

Not to mention the mass casualties that are going to occur in Iran.

But hell yeah, we've done them an enormous favor, and if we bomb them even more, it's simply going to get better and better.
 
robbieh said:
Given all these US and UK bases all over the gulf
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The UK don't have bases "all over the gulf", they have some military at bases in the gulf, to my knowledge (before I retired from supporting them last summer) we have a presence at 6/7 airfields (Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, 2 in Oman, and possibly Jordan, the only deployed aircraft are fast jets helping defend Qatar), and 2 ports (Bahrain and Oman), we have some ships in the gulf (hence the presence at the 2 ports).

Then we also have Akrotiri base, with deployed aircraft supporting all of that, with defence, and transport.
 
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