US & Israel attack Iran

The Northern Baptist said:
Analysts now think $200 a barrel isn’t far fetched. I think it’s now time to go into ‘prepping mode’ and prepare for societal collapse.

I am filling dry stores, freezer and adding another bottle to my portable propane portfolio. Sharpening axes and tooling up. Preparing a bug-out bag for the family which we can grab and throw in the van and head out to the hills if required.
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You may be too late, it's already starting

 
west didsblue said:
A long article to justify antisemitism and attacks on Jews.
Didn’t take long for the comments under the article to back this up with one complaining that the Germans didn’t finish the job.
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The starting point for that is this quote from the article. "Zionists insist that hating ‘Israel’ is tantamount to hating Jews, then in the same breath demand that people do not conflate Israel with Jews."

I'd like to think that Herzl, Weizmann, Jabotinsky, would not have been Zionists if they'd known what the Jewish State would turn into.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
Analysts now think $200 a barrel isn’t far fetched. I think it’s now time to go into ‘prepping mode’ and prepare for societal collapse.

I am filling dry stores, freezer and adding another bottle to my portable propane portfolio. Sharpening axes and tooling up. Preparing a bug-out bag for the family which we can grab and throw in the van and head out to the hills if required.
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Some countries are already taking measures - governments reducing fuel duty to try and lessen the impact on petrol prices and shops and stores closing early to save energy costs. If the Red Sea area also become a restricted zone then I think UK employers better start preparing for their workforce to work from home as they won't be able to get to work when fuel is rationed or runs out, if public transport is not an option.
 
stan bowles said:
Some countries are already taking measures - governments reducing fuel duty to try and lessen the impact on petrol prices and shops and stores closing early to save energy costs. If the Red Sea area also become a restricted zone then I think UK employers better start preparing for their workforce to work from home as they won't be able to get to work when fuel is rationed or runs out, if public transport is not an option.
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The government can control public transport prices and they can control nearly 35% of the cost of fuel at the pump.

If fuel does become a major cost of living driver then the government is choosing our suffering.

www.bbc.co.uk

Fuel tax halved and free public transport offered as war pushes up prices in Australia

Victoria and Tasmania are incentivising commuters not to drive in a bid to ease cost pressures.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
We've got Guardiola said:
The government can control public transport prices and they can control nearly 35% of the cost of fuel at the pump.

If fuel does become a major cost of living driver then the government is choosing our suffering.

www.bbc.co.uk

Fuel tax halved and free public transport offered as war pushes up prices in Australia

Victoria and Tasmania are incentivising commuters not to drive in a bid to ease cost pressures.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Whilst I understand your sentiment, that's tax revenue the government has forecasted within the budget. Any decision to waive some of that cost would need to be fully considered with an impact assessment undertaken - we're meant to be increasing defence spending as a proportion of GDP, for example.

I get it - reduce fuel duty and alleviate current pressure, but that will have consequences elsewhere.
 
Interesting video from a year ago. Basically highlights the links between Trump, Kushner, Netenyahu, MBS of Saudi Arabia and the tilt towards war even at that point. But he predicts the war would happen in the next couple of years.

I dont like the guy giving the lecture, he seems to like hating on America quite a bit, but he is accurate on a lot of things.

The main gist of the video though is that America would lose because of all the stuff we all (Except the American govn) know already.

 
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Dazzle84 said:
Whilst I understand your sentiment, that's tax revenue the government has forecasted within the budget. Any decision to waive some of that cost would need to be fully considered with an impact assessment undertaken - we're meant to be increasing defence spending as a proportion of GDP, for example.

I get it - reduce fuel duty and alleviate current pressure, but that will have consequences elsewhere.
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The first duty of government is to help people. Surely they can find the money somewhere?

We currently spend 2.4% of GDP on defence and they've commited to try to get to 2.5% over this Parliament. That's about £10-15bn extra over 5 years, it's basically irrelevant.

To put this into context, the country grew by 1.3% in 2025, +£40bn in one year. Where has that 'new' £40bn gone? Arguably only 2.4% of it will be additionally spent on defence so it's clearly not a factor.
 
We've got Guardiola said:
The first duty of government is to help people. Surely they can find the money somewhere?

We currently spend 2.4% of GDP on defence and they've commited to try to get to 2.5% over this Parliament. That's about £10-15bn extra over 5 years, it's basically irrelevant.

To put this into context, the country grew by 1.3% in 2025, +£40bn in one year. Where has that 'new' £40bn gone? Arguably only 2.4% of it will be additionally spent on defence so it's clearly not a factor.
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Of course they can find money but as the poster you replied to said, that will impact us all elsewhere
 
One lesson that should be learnt from this shit sandwich of a situation is the country should stay the course on achieving net zero. Whether it can be achieved by 2050 is different story, the natural resources in the world are finite and are located in places where there is constant conflict or some complete twat can hold the world to ransom for them.
 
dickie davies said:
I think it's all about revenge before he dies
Example 1
trump says Obama will wage war in Iran Obama signs an agreement with Iran, trump throws the agreement in the bin starts a war and says it was a terrible deal
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Or Israel have the dirt on Donnie and a whole host of others in prominent government positions?

The rest of it is just beneficially coincident.
 
Everyone is so focused on the cost of fuel rising, just wait until this really kicks in, the stock market and pensions will take a big hit. Companies will look to lay off staff, there will be huge pressure on the government to step in like Covid. We will see a huge drop in public spending and investment.

And dont forget this was a choice to go to war, Israel and the USA hsve basically chosen to fuck the global economy.
 
We've got Guardiola said:
The first duty of government is to help people. Surely they can find the money somewhere?

We currently spend 2.4% of GDP on defence and they've commited to try to get to 2.5% over this Parliament. That's about £10-15bn extra over 5 years, it's basically irrelevant.

To put this into context, the country grew by 1.3% in 2025, +£40bn in one year. Where has that 'new' £40bn gone? Arguably only 2.4% of it will be additionally spent on defence so it's clearly not a factor.
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The pension aged population grew by 1.7% in 2025. That's probably most of that growth taken care of. Last time there was anything taken away from pensioners there was uproar - regardless of your view on the winter fuel allowance, it's not something would want to (or indeed should) rush into. Liz Truss promised unfunded energy relief as part of her disastrous budget and we've all paid thousands more in mortgage payments (even by proxy through rent) since

We're all fucked because some American dickhead has people literally telling him he's infallible, when we can all see the evidence that he's an absolute idiot.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
One lesson that should be learnt from this shit sandwich of a situation is the country should stay the course on achieving net zero. Whether it can be achieved by 2050 is different story, the natural resources in the world are finite and are located in places where there is constant conflict or some complete twat can hold the world to ransom for them.
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After hearing the reasons for not drilling the north sea, im fully behind renewable energy
However net zero is bollocks whilst we continue to export our recycling to the far east
 
Dazzle84 said:
Whilst I understand your sentiment, that's tax revenue the government has forecasted within the budget. Any decision to waive some of that cost would need to be fully considered with an impact assessment undertaken - we're meant to be increasing defence spending as a proportion of GDP, for example.

I get it - reduce fuel duty and alleviate current pressure, but that will have consequences elsewhere.
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The base price increase of oil wasn't forecasted so the extra tax revenue off the back of it could not have been baked into it any budget forecast - so there should be no "direct" consequences of reducing the tax take on the now inflated prices
 
Scoobz3 said:
The base price increase of oil wasn't forecasted so the extra tax revenue off the back of it could not have been baked into it any budget forecast - so there should be no "direct" consequences of reducing the tax take on the now inflated prices
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That makes sense - thank you for pointing that out.

I do still understand the govt having concerns about implementing a relief, they will face an inevitable backlash once that relief is rescinded
 
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