US & Israel attack Iran

[N1985]

And how will that stop anything ?
The Orange Shit Gibbon has already annihilated the top 50 leaders, he has also bombed them into submission twice........or so he says.
How is destroying their infrastructure going to stop a drone?

How about america withdraw their blockade and let sensible people (non americans/Israeli ) sort it out.

Get out of here with your sensible and logical rhetoric

 

[Slipper One]

And when the next guy wants to put them back into europe, putin will kick off saying they are moving their troops closer to russia and they feel threatened.

The 'next guy', might not be for a while.

 

[Slipper One]

The distinction surely is that the use of a tactical nuke on Ukraine would most likely have significant radioactive consequences for the western part of Russia. Agree with the rest of your analysis though.

I think if the US was to nuke Iran, then I think there would be a fair chance that something similar would involve a US stadium with massive casualties within a few years, or the Trump family itself.

The US is reactionary, Iran has patience.

 

[Slipper One]

The people that think this will just end with him resigning or Trump not being President are even more detached from reality (and it hurts me to say that).

They voted for this administration not by mistake but for a SECOND TIME.

This is who they are and will continue to be for decades and they breed.. so they will be this way for millenia.

It's time to start believing that America is not your friend but instead is the enemy who should not be trusted.

I think much of the world has come to realise that and are starting to build a global society outside of the US.

Talking is one thing, doing is another, but at least they seem to have recognised the issue.
Mark Carney at Davos pulled their heads out of their backsides and made many face the reality that was growing before them.

 

[Slipper One]

Iran just launched a drone strike on the UAE port of Fujairah.

If confirmed it's time to annihilate Iranian infrastructure.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't they been having a good old go at doing that?

Has that resolved the issue?

You must be American, never learn from past experiences.

 

[Slipper One]

Like I said I'd prefer an international coalition to do it. But Iran's leadership is a cancer that will keep reappearing. Any peace will be a fragile one unless true regime change is implemented.

You want an international coalition to do it do you?

If I remember correctly, the US and Israel started this little event all on their own and didn't consult with anybody, yet you want/expect everybody else to sacrifice their servicemen to fix this.

We all know that the US walked into this on an ego high, fuelled by the success of Venezuela, a false illusion that military might will conquer all and no real plan apart from bomb them into submission.

That hasn't worked out very well has it, and everybody is paying the penalty for this gross incompetence.

I don't think there's anybody on this forum who believes that the Iranian leadership is anything but a cancer, but what really matters is how the cancer is dealt with. Trying to put troops in and physically take over the country would be a mammoth task and an extremely costly one.

They haven't really budgeted this extravaganza out, so they will need to factor in lots and lots of bodybags.

 

[Chris in London]

I don't think there's anybody on this forum who believes that the Iranian leadership is anything but a cancer, but what really matters is how the cancer is dealt with. Trying to put troops in and physically take over the country would be a mammoth task and an extremely costly one.

The issue now is that the US either reconciles itself to the fact they have lost the war, which is what the Iranian regime remaining in place will amount to, or they amass a ground invasion to enforce regime change which nobody else will help with (other than Israel) and would be massively unpopular domestically.

Trump has, in other words, created a situation where the only two realistic outcomes are both unacceptable to him in their different ways.

I'd imagine that the end result basically consists of a ceasefire which involves the US achieving none of its war aims, passage of the strait returning to something like the status quo ante and Trump calling that a victory with a capital V.

I'm not sure he will fool many people with that even domestically, never mind internationally.

 

[remember arthur mann]

I wondered how long it would take Starmer to get on board and blame Iran for UK Jewish attacks and the rising price of fuel and the cost of living. He must think we were born yesterday.

 

[The blue phantom]

The issue now is that the US either reconciles itself to the fact they have lost the war, which is what the Iranian regime remaining in place will amount to, or they amass a ground invasion to enforce regime change which nobody else will help with (other than Israel) and would be massively unpopular domestically.

Trump has, in other words, created a situation where the only two realistic outcomes are both unacceptable to him in their different ways.

I'd imagine that the end result basically consists of a ceasefire which involves the US achieving none of its war aims, passage of the strait returning to something like the status quo ante and Trump calling that a victory with a capital V.

I'm not sure he will fool many people with that even domestically, never mind internationally.

You think Israel would send ground troops into Iran?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Looks like the US has formed its exit plan and now passing it over to other countries to get the tankers running again.

Do Americans actually believe this bullshit, because nobody else does.

 

[give it to gordon]

Think your right mate as you cannot reason with a group of fanatics who are being told by their god what to do and straight away they hit the gulf states who tbh haven’t really got involved but should now go in aswell .

Just a shame the Americans voted him and his looneys into the white house

 

[BobKowalski]

I wondered how long it would take Starmer to get on board and blame Iran for UK Jewish attacks and the rising price of fuel and the cost of living. He must think we were born yesterday.

To be fair, the rise in fuel prices is down to the US/Iran war and subsequent blockades. It will likely impact the overall cost of living in the coming months.

 

[Blue Mist]

Europe needs to pull together and help Trump sort these Iranians out.
Until it's sorted trump can't attack Cuba which in turn delays his planned regime change in Brazil, Bolserano, what a guy, great leader, wrongly jailed.
Then Mexico, Colombia, nasty people, nasty, Madagascar, (I just thought I'd throw that one in)

Come on Europe, help our leader, you know its the right thing to do.

 

[remember arthur mann]

You think Israel would send ground troops into Iran?

They'd shit themselves. They can only murder women and kids.

 

[Chris in London]

You think Israel would send ground troops into Iran?

No but they would probably provide support for the US if it did

 

[super_city_si]

No but they would probably provide support for the US if it did

Yes, "you go in there first, don't worry, we're right behind you"

 

[domalino]

Iran needs fucking off big time and its actions have direct correlation with the fact there's a complete lunatic leading Israeli politics.

[citation needed]

 

[Scottyboi]

You think Israel would send ground troops into Iran?

They're having a really tough time against Hezbollah at the moment due to the fibre optic drones they have deployed. Israel wouldn't last 5 minutes against Iran in a ground war they don't have the population alone to even consider it. Easier to let American soldiers die.

 

[domalino]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't they been having a good old go at doing that?

Has that resolved the issue?

You must be American, never learn from past experiences.

Iran - “here’s our list of demands for peace, strait is open to anyone who hasn’t attacked us”

USA - “deal! Wait no deal we’re blockading all ships you let through Hormuz now”

Iran - “Ok but dont try to break our blockade during the peace talks or or we’ll retaliate”

USA - *sails warships through the strait and destroys Iranian boats*

Iran - retaliates as promised

@bridgeno1 - “this shows we most destroy Iran”


I know it upturns what we’ve been used to for 40 years but people need to realise that the USA is the instigator and escalator of this war at every stage. Iran has for more than 2 months simply carried out the retaliations it said it would if the USA escalated. Fujairah was hit because Trump couldn’t resist escalating things.

 

[SilverFox2]

Europe needs to pull together and help Trump sort these Iranians out.
Until it's sorted trump can't attack Cuba which in turn delays his planned regime change in Brazil, Bolserano, what a guy, great leader, wrongly jailed.
Then Mexico, Colombia, nasty people, nasty, Madagascar, (I just thought I'd throw that one in)

Come on Europe, help our leader, you know its the right thing to do.

Don't forget Greenland, they stole one of the 4 hydrogen bombs when a USA plane had to be abandoned in the air and crashed near Thule.