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Maybe a bad time to introduce a bit of levity, but I've just listened to a good bit of satire - a radio play where Churchill's bust in the Oval Office becomes an observer of the current madness.

 
I think when you have had months of people wandering around faces covered wearing TEMU sourced tactical gear and refusing to ID themselves as ICE then the idea that a fake cop did the shootings should be no surprise.

However going forward I wouldn't want to be in any sort of uniform for the rest of Trumps term as these events are now putting targets on their back in a country awash with guns - sadly there will be more deaths

 
Attacking elected officials or judges or D.A.s has to be a red-line. It's totally out-of-hand. Since 2016 Trump has been "heightening the contradictions in the developing correlation of forces", so he's useful for that I suppose, to me he's some sort of stress-test.

The Constitution guarantees to the several states a republican form of government. That form of government is predicted on the consent of the governed who actualize their will through democratic elections for the purpose of creating a legislative body, an executive, and indirectly a judiciary all of which, ultimately, must be of the people, by the people, for the people. This shit has to stop.

Actually literally attacking elected officials and the judiciary, within and without the states, I don't care who's at it, it must stop, zero tolerance.

In my own state I hope Michelle Wu, Elizabeth Warren and Maura Healy have proper security. One of my neighbors works for the state police and I'll be having a few regular Saturday night beers with him starting about 6pm so I'm going to ask him if he knows anything / can he comment.
Zero tolerance. Must be a red line. I agree. So you proudly voted for Kamala Harris, given a) the amazing ease of predicting the Presidential rhetoric that has inflamed this behavio(u)r and b) voting for her was literally the only way any regular, average American could limit or stop this (though sadly — possibly tragically — not enough Americans).
 
Perspective.

Google "A history of social and political violence in the United Kingdom since Pitt The Younger."
Google "A history of social and political violence in the United States since the Boston Massacre of 1770."

Of course people are making things worse by their language, and that is also literally NOTHING NEW either. Just like Trump and his weird insistence that everything is either the best ever if he likes it, or the worst ever if he doesn't, this obsessive anti-historical insistence that EVERYTHING is worse than it has ever been sounds like a script right out of the Kremlin.

And when some leftist 60's throwbacks bomb a meeting of "Smith County Republicans" next week killing 20 because they are all Nazis and Fascists we'll all know where to look to assign blame, right?
It's odd you're suggesting people need perspective while suggesting a left-wing bombing killing 20 is realistic. That's never happened before in American history.
 
Zero tolerance. Must be a red line. I agree. So you proudly voted for Kamala Harris, given a) the amazing ease of predicting the Presidential rhetoric that has inflamed this behavio(u)r and b) voting for her was literally the only way any regular, average American could limit or stop this (though sadly — possibly tragically — not enough Americans).
The only way to stop leftist violence is to vote for the candidates the leftists want.

Cool!
 
Perspective.

Google "A history of social and political violence in the United Kingdom since Pitt The Younger."
Google "A history of social and political violence in the United States since the Boston Massacre of 1770."

Of course people are making things worse by their language, and that is also literally NOTHING NEW either. Just like Trump and his weird insistence that everything is either the best ever if he likes it, or the worst ever if he doesn't, this obsessive anti-historical insistence that EVERYTHING is worse than it has ever been sounds like a script right out of the Kremlin.

And when some leftist 60's throwbacks bomb a meeting of "Smith County Republicans" next week killing 20 because they are all Nazis and Fascists we'll all know where to look to assign blame, right?
Obviously! Only if the country had voted for who the leftist wanted, the leftists wont be acting so violently.

I blame Trump and his voters. Rather than choose who the leftist had handpicked for them, they made up their own minds and chose differently. How undemocratic of them
 
Yes - sticking just to the facts - they have confirmed it is politically motivated.

No, we don't know what the objective was and probably too early to come to any conclusions as we don't have enough information. I've seen other people online already claiming the assassin was a liberal who was targeting more right wing Democrats who might vote with the GOP on certain issues.

I find that hard to believe (one of those Occam's Razor situations - the most prosaic explanation is just that this guy didn't like Dems) but we can't rule it out.

Given the sensitivity of the situation in the US, it's better to reserve judgment until we know more.
I think your 'reserve judgment' is directed at the wrong guy. Perhaps you should look to the "blame Trump" folks.

But hey! 'Reserving Judgment' is something we should all be able to get behind.
 
Attacking the judiciary is a problem. From last year.



June 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate has passed a bill that would create a new resource center to provide threat monitoring and training for judges and personnel in state and local courts in response to a rising number of threats to the judiciary.

The Senate late Wednesday unanimously passed the bipartisan Countering Threats and Attacks on Our Judges Act, legislation that lawmakers argued was necessary to help protect the safety of judges and others who work in state courthouses nationwide.


On and on and on, even assassination attempts on members of SCOTUS, and harassment outside their houses. However, who is number one in making it worse than ever? Consistently? Never apologizing? Never dialing it back?

This is from just 2 days ago.


This episode describes attacks on judges since January 2025, how they differ from past attacks and criticism, the impact of bogus impeachment efforts, and the way forward. Judge Nancy Gertner (Ret.) and Nathan Bruemmer, the Chair of the Rapid Response Committee, reflect on what makes this moment unique, the stakes for judicial independence, and how we can safeguard the integrity of the courts in the face of increasing political pressure.

From last year.

The United States Marshall’s Service reports that serious threats to federal judges have doubled since 2021, a pattern also seen at the state court level. There have been multiple high-profile physical attacks on judges and their families, including homicides, as well a barrage of threats sent directly to judges or posted on social media. In addition, several national studies have noted a drop in the public’s trust and confidence in the courts.

“My life has been threatened several times resulting in two arrests, one conviction, and the purchase of my new gun,” one judge wrote in the comments.

"The attacks on the Judiciary by government figures have normalized the behavior. Two weeks ago, a litigant said I should be killed and my house burnt down with my family in it. Big talk from small people, but still drives up stress levels,” another judge said.


WASHINGTON, May 1 (Reuters) - U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson said on Thursday attacks by Republican President Donald Trump and his allies on judges were "not random" and seemed "designed to intimidate the judiciary."

U.S. Chief Justice John Roberts rebuked Trump in March for urging the impeachment of a federal judge, laying bare tensions between the country's executive and the judiciary as Trump's sweeping assertions of power encounter judicial obstacles.

Mods!!! Can we ban this guy?

He is bringing too many facts to a Fantasy thread. No one asked for this. :)
 
I have this notion that when Trump takes the salute of the aircraft carriers going along Pennsylvania Avenue today Melania will hold up a sign saying "No kings." DT gets so mad he takes a wild swing at her, misses, and falls over the balustrade to be impaled on something sharp.

(I've always had a good imagination, ok?)
 
I think your 'reserve judgment' is directed at the wrong guy. Perhaps you should look to the "blame Trump" folks.

But hey! 'Reserving Judgment' is something we should all be able to get behind.

My 'reserve judgment' comment wasn't directed at anybody - the use of "we" throughout my post should have made it quite clear I was talking in general terms about all of us, not any specific individual.
 
My 'reserve judgment' comment wasn't directed at anybody - the use of "we" throughout my post should have made it quite clear I was talking in general terms about all of us, not any specific individual.
Apologies. Chef's kiss then.
 
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They bring the parade forward to try and avoid the weather - no branches of the US armed forces were formed on this date but Trump was born on the 14th of June ............ but its not about him and his birthday
 

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