US Politics Thread

[Dax777]

Good retort — I’d never have thought of it because I promise you there isn’t a porn star of any era that would sleep with you.

Zing!!!!

 

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Hunter Biden’s pardon looks a lot like Richard Nixon’s.

President Joe Biden’s grant of clemency on Sunday night — an extraordinary political act with extraordinary legal breadth — insulates his son from ever facing federal charges over any crimes he possibly could have committed over the past decade.

Experts on pardons said they could think of only one other person who has received a presidential pardon so sweeping in generations: Nixon, who was given a blanket pardon by Gerald Ford in 1974.



“I have never seen language like this in a pardon document that purports to pardon offenses that have not apparently even been charged, with the exception of the Nixon pardon,” said Margaret Love, who served from 1990 to 1997 as the U.S. pardon attorney, a Justice Department position devoted to assisting the president on clemency issues.

“Even the broadest Trump pardons were specific as to what was being pardoned,” Love added.

Joe Biden’s “full and unconditional pardon” of his son is deliberately vague. Donald Trump and his allies have long fixated on the president’s son, and Trump has repeatedly pledged to use his second term to investigate and prosecute members of the Biden family. Conservative commentators have engaged in parlor-game speculation that Hunter Biden could be charged with bribery, illegal lobbying or other crimes stemming from his foreign business activities and drug addiction.

So rather than merely pardoning his son for the gun crimes for which he was convicted and the tax crimes for which he pleaded guilty, the president’s pardon covers all “offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in” from Jan. 1, 2014, through Dec. 1, 2024. That language mirrors the language in Ford’s pardon of Nixon, which did not merely cover the Watergate scandal but extended to “all offenses against the United States” that Nixon “has committed or may have committed” between Jan. 20, 1969, and Aug. 9, 1974 — the exact span of Nixon’s presidency.




The starting date of Jan. 1, 2014, in the Biden pardon was surely not chosen randomly: Hunter Biden joined the board of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian gas company, in April 2014, while his father was vice president. Republicans have accused the younger Biden of illegally profiting off his position on that board.

The pardon came the day after Trump announced he would nominate Kash Patel, a Trump loyalist, as FBI director. Last year, when it appeared that Hunter Biden was on the verge of a plea deal to resolve his legal troubles, Patel criticized the deal as unusually lenient. (The deal later collapsed.)

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/02/hunter-biden-pardon-nixon-00192101

 

[Dax777]

The American people have clearly expressed, with a majority vote, that the law should at best be treated as a minor inconvenience rather than the foundation of a functioning democracy. If that wasn’t true they wouldn’t have voted in a convicted felon.
Whilst it’s clearly wrong and nepotism at its worst, Biden’s only doing what the majority of the American people think is perfectly acceptable, and any outrage by people who voted or support this shit is hypocrisy at its finest.

Lol. Loving the pretzel twisting logic here...

Apparently, Hunter Biden would be jail bound now had a few more people just voted for Kamala Harris. Lol

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Didnt trump pardon someone last time he was in , he can pardon himself ffs

Jared Kushener's father for one. He admitted to trying to blackmail his sister's husband into not testifying against him for tax evasion and illegal campaign donations by setting him up with a hooker then secretly filming it.

He's the guy likely to be the next Ambassador to France.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Oh Oh!!!!

@FogBlueInSanFran
@west didsblue
@KS55

And all the other esteemed scholars. Can you call please answer the above question?

Sure.

I don’t care.

I already said I didn’t think Biden should do this.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Good retort — I’d never have thought of it because I promise you there isn’t a porn star of any era that would sleep with you.

Not even Hannibal Letcher?

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/01/18/11/66699681-11647127-image-a-12_1674039985877.jpg

 

[super_city_si]

According to the right-wing Washington Examiner:

Of the 2,550 criminal investigations by the IRS in fiscal 2022, more than 9 in 10 offenders prosecuted were convicted.

Will they be pardoned now?

Here's the thing, Hunter wasn't prosecuted as a political act by Biden's own DOJ, he was prosecuted because he was a tax cheat that bragged about it. Two big things Democrats talk about - lax gun laws and not paying your fair share.

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no

Some folks are born, silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, y'all
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yeah

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son, no, no
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no

True words. You have the very definition of a two tiered justice system.

 

[Dax777]

Don’t know why you’re asking me.
1. I haven’t particularly followed this saga and I have no interest in it.
2. The pardon to my mind is disgraceful. I don’t accept the explanation or justification. It’s just another example of USA’s failure to stick to the rule of law.

Fair enough. Respect!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It's like an even more corrupt version of our honours system.

For all its faults, our honours system is simply an unmeritorious and inequitable means of social advancement; it isn’t an assault on the laws of natural justice and the rule of law.

 

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True words. You have the very definition of a two tiered justice system.

Looks like the Democrats are right AGAIN! White privilege by the patriarchy!