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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Anyone who thinks for a second that the USA is blowing up its allies pipelines is either delusional or is intentionally pushing Putin's narrative. Full stop.
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A few posts back I contemplated that Bigga is actually a pro-Putin troll, but quickly dismissed the idea; it seems that I may have been too hasty.
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It does seem to stretch credulity a bit. Your first sentence that is. I have no comment to make on the second.
 
journolud said:
Well I can see how people might be lead to that conclusion and I certainly don't think it's beyond the US to be underhand. Your original comment on this though was "your country blows up pipelines" which sounded like your mind was already made up about it.
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You are correct, I did say that.

I know US propaganda all too well.

They are experts in gaslighting the West!
 
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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Reading comprehension isn't a strong point of yours I suppose. I guess that explains some of the illogic you spout... hint... points 1 and 3 refer to the capsule summary of your beliefs/tendencies which I detailed several posts above.
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Oh! Haha!

What was wrong with making a "Point 2"??

And I see you skip over, yet again, the question of what I said was inaccurate about "Point 1".

Still waiting...
 
Bigga said:
You are correct, I did say that.

I know US propaganda all too well.

They are experts in gaslighting the West!
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so you do believe then that the US is responsible for the Nord explosions? Do you think there is any chance Russia did it?

Do you also believe, for example, that the US might be behind the bombing of a humanitarian convoy in Ukraine this week, or that Ukraine did it to discredit the Russians or even that it's possible it didn't really happen? Or might that have been the Russians after all?
 
journolud said:
so you do believe then that the US is responsible for the Nord explosions? Do you think there is any chance Russia did it?

Do you also believe, for example, that the US might be behind the bombing of a humanitarian convoy in Ukraine this week, or that Ukraine did it to discredit the Russians or even that it's possible it didn't really happen? Or might that have been the Russians after all?
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I don't know. There are liars on both sides. However, if Russia WAS behind it, I don't think they were aware of the convoy participants. Are you thinking the US/ NATO don't make errors?

Do you think it was correct for BloJo to scupper the peace talks earlier this year or do you think Russia was behind it?
 
Bigga said:
I don't know. There are liars on both sides. However, if Russia WAS behind it, I don't think they were aware of the convoy participants. Are you thinking the US/ NATO don't make errors?

Do you think it was correct for BloJo to scupper the peace talks earlier this year or do you think Russia was behind it?
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We probably differ in our view on whether Russia made a genuine error in killing 25 people in a humanitarian convoy. There have been too many of those kinds of “mistakes” on their part during this conflict. We know they have run a pretty incompetent war though so who knows eh?

Do I think the US/ Nato make errors? Of course they do. Do they deliberately bomb civilians targets?

I’m not sure what you are referring to in your last paragraph. I’m not a subscriber to the view that there is wholesale Russian interference in western democratic processes. I am a subscriber to the view that Johnson was and is incompetent and self serving (assuming that is who you are referring to) but will need to remind me what peace talks there were and how they seemed to fail
 
journolud said:
We probably differ in our view on whether Russia made a genuine error in killing 25 people in a humanitarian convoy. There have been too many of those kinds of “mistakes” on their part during this conflict. We know they have run a pretty incompetent war though so who knows eh?

Do I think the US/ Nato make errors? Of course they do. Do they deliberately bomb civilians targets?

I’m not sure what you are referring to in your last paragraph. I’m not a subscriber to the view that there is wholesale Russian interference in western democratic processes. I am a subscriber to the view that Johnson was and is incompetent and self serving (assuming that is who you are referring to) but will need to remind me what peace talks there were and how they seemed to fail
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There was loads of discussion about BloJo's visit.

Have a read from different viewpoints:

Article One...

Article Two...

Article Three...

I never look at one source whilst many do. That's up to them.
 
Ok. It’s obvious I need more sources of information to formulate my political views. Maybe I should stop, reflect and listen to the point of view of a person who would say something like this. To this point I’ve ignore her. My bad. There must be something wrong with me. I am also sure that if this perspective isn’t widely held by those on her “side”, this will be called out by scores of them.

 
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