US Politics Thread

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

 

[west didsblue]

Trump withdrew US troops from Syria in 2019 thereby giving his old pal Erdogan the green light to send his tanks to massacre Kurds who had fought gallantly by America's side against ISIS. He betrayed them and abandoned them to their deaths.

In the long list of shameful things done by Trump this ranks fairly near the top. It was absolutely disgraceful that he abandoned allies in this manner and will have done irreparable damage to US credibility as an ally that can be relied on.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I suppose the first questions are whether the top secret, etc, documents had been declassified (as Trump claims). There seems to be some lack of clarity as to how it's meant to be done.

Why would he have something about Macron? And keeping Stone's pardon seems weird.

He's a strange sad orange man, and he doesn't have my pity.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

He's going to try and talk his way out of this...

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I suppose the first questions are whether the top secret, etc, documents had been declassified (as Trump claims). There seems to be some lack of clarity as to how it's meant to be done.

Why would he have something about Macron? And keeping Stone's pardon seems weird.

He's a strange sad orange man, and he doesn't have my pity.

Declassifying documents can't be done with the stroke of a presidential pen. There is a process, and there has to be be a record of it if it has been legitimately carried out.

Just because Trump takes a Sharpie and scrawls 'Declassified' on the front cover doesn't make a document instantly declassified. Plus once he was no longer POTUS he was no longer authorised to either see the documents or alter their classification.

Each classified document (secret and above) has a unique serial number relating to an entry in a Protected Document Register (PDR) and you can't just make a document unclassified without clearing the entry in the PDR in line with procedures laid down in the security classification guide (SCG) which covers the particular program or codeword the document relates to.

Basically he is talking out of his arse.

 

[domalino]

I suppose the first questions are whether the top secret, etc, documents had been declassified (as Trump claims). There seems to be some lack of clarity as to how it's meant to be done.

Why would he have something about Macron? And keeping Stone's pardon seems weird.

He's a strange sad orange man, and he doesn't have my pity.

Declassifying documents can't be done with the stroke of a presidential pen. There is a process, and there has to be be a record of it if it has been legitimately carried out.

Just because Trump takes a Sharpie and scrawls 'Declassified' on the front cover doesn't make a document instantly declassified. Plus once he was no longer POTUS he was no longer authorised to either see the documents or alter their classification.

Each classified document (secret and above) has a unique serial number relating to an entry in a Protected Document Register (PDR) and you can't just make a document unclassified without clearing the entry in the PDR in line with procedures laid down in the security classification guide (SCG) which covers the particular program or codeword the document relates to.

Basically he is talking out of his arse.

@Trevor Morley's Tache is right you can't just say "these are declassified" and it becomes true, you have to officially do it so people know they're declassified for everyone else and so you can prove you did it when you had the power to.

More importantly though, the laws he's suspected of breaking as detailed on the search warrant don't have anything to do with files being classified or not.



The whole classified/unclassified thing is just a Trump red herring.

 

[SWP's back]

 

[SWP's back]

Lol

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

This explains the process a bit better than I can.