journolud
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It does seem to stretch credulity a bit. Your first sentence that is. I have no comment to make on the second.
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Bigga
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Well I can see how people might be lead to that conclusion and I certainly don't think it's beyond the US to be underhand. Your original comment on this though was "your country blows up pipelines" which sounded like your mind was already made up about it.
You are correct, I did say that.
I know US propaganda all too well.
They are experts in gaslighting the West!
Bigga
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Reading comprehension isn't a strong point of yours I suppose. I guess that explains some of the illogic you spout... hint... points 1 and 3 refer to the capsule summary of your beliefs/tendencies which I detailed several posts above.
Oh! Haha!
What was wrong with making a "Point 2"??
And I see you skip over, yet again, the question of what I said was inaccurate about "Point 1".
Still waiting...
journolud
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so you do believe then that the US is responsible for the Nord explosions? Do you think there is any chance Russia did it?You are correct, I did say that.
I know US propaganda all too well.
They are experts in gaslighting the West!
Do you also believe, for example, that the US might be behind the bombing of a humanitarian convoy in Ukraine this week, or that Ukraine did it to discredit the Russians or even that it's possible it didn't really happen? Or might that have been the Russians after all?
Mr Kobayashi
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And down the rabbit hole you go...
journolud
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I think it's sometimes worth the effort. I understand the frustrations thoughAnd down the rabbit hole you go...
Bigga
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so you do believe then that the US is responsible for the Nord explosions? Do you think there is any chance Russia did it?
Do you also believe, for example, that the US might be behind the bombing of a humanitarian convoy in Ukraine this week, or that Ukraine did it to discredit the Russians or even that it's possible it didn't really happen? Or might that have been the Russians after all?
I don't know. There are liars on both sides. However, if Russia WAS behind it, I don't think they were aware of the convoy participants. Are you thinking the US/ NATO don't make errors?
Do you think it was correct for BloJo to scupper the peace talks earlier this year or do you think Russia was behind it?
Bigga
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I think it's sometimes worth the effort. I understand the frustrations though
I appreciate the discussion, but you don't HAVE to engage.
All govs lie to you in smoke screens.
I prefer to look at all the picture rather the one I'm told to look at.
journolud
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We probably differ in our view on whether Russia made a genuine error in killing 25 people in a humanitarian convoy. There have been too many of those kinds of “mistakes” on their part during this conflict. We know they have run a pretty incompetent war though so who knows eh?I don't know. There are liars on both sides. However, if Russia WAS behind it, I don't think they were aware of the convoy participants. Are you thinking the US/ NATO don't make errors?
Do you think it was correct for BloJo to scupper the peace talks earlier this year or do you think Russia was behind it?
Do I think the US/ Nato make errors? Of course they do. Do they deliberately bomb civilians targets?
I’m not sure what you are referring to in your last paragraph. I’m not a subscriber to the view that there is wholesale Russian interference in western democratic processes. I am a subscriber to the view that Johnson was and is incompetent and self serving (assuming that is who you are referring to) but will need to remind me what peace talks there were and how they seemed to fail
journolud
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I choose to engage and am happy to do so. I think you underestimate the critical faculties of those on here you cross swords withI appreciate the discussion, but you don't HAVE to engage.
All govs lie to you in smoke screens.
I prefer to look at all the picture rather the one I'm told to look at.