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bluethrunthru said:
whats the betting most of these cunts are anti mask?

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White supremacy in 2021 = a bunch of needy insecure frat boys renting a removals van to transport themselves about instead of just organising minibuses or a coach.

Pack 'em in tight, it is gonna be a beautiful sight...

 
Dax777 said:
What are there reasons for wanting to ban these terms?

I ask because that seems a relevant question that hasn't been asked.
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The stated reasons -

“It has come to our attention, and to some of the people who traveled here to Madison today, that a growing number of school districts are teaching material that attempts to redress the injustice of racism and sexism by employing racism and sexism, as well as promoting psychological distress in students based on these immutable characteristics,” state Rep. Chuck Wichgers (R) said of his bill. “No one should have to undergo the humiliation of being told that they are inferior to someone else. We are all members of the human race.”​
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Which is, as you know, complete bullshit, and most of the banned words don't even fit with that, but they don't care about that.

It's all CRT moral panic. Can't teach the kids that discrimination extends past shouting slurs or Jim Crow or they might grow up and change things.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
So they are rejecting the idea that there is systemic racism by using systemic racism to restrict the flow of information that might challenge the continued existence of the racist system.
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I suppose this presumes the truth of systemic racism as a rule.

But if systemic racism wasn't true, or more sensibly, had to be proven first rather than just asserted a priori...

In that scenario, that would mean they were trying to ban a false narrative by using a tactic that makes true what used to be false (or unproven) about the narrative to begin with.


The idiocy of banning CRT and the ideas that flow from..it, is that you validate those very ideas by doing so.
 
domalino said:
The stated reasons -

“It has come to our attention, and to some of the people who traveled here to Madison today, that a growing number of school districts are teaching material that attempts to redress the injustice of racism and sexism by employing racism and sexism, as well as promoting psychological distress in students based on these immutable characteristics,”​
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Well, this doesn't sound incredibly insensible
domalino said:
state Rep. Chuck Wichgers (R) said of his bill. “No one should have to undergo the humiliation of being told that they are inferior to someone else. We are all members of the human race.”​
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state Rep. Chuck Wichgers (R) said of his bill. “No one should have to undergo the humiliation of being told that they are inferior to someone else. We are all members of the human race.”

Which is, as you know, complete bullshit. Banning the word equality is a particularly amusing slip of the mask.
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They didn't ban the word 'Equality' they banned the word 'Equity', which as you probably know isn't the same thing And have totally different meanings.
 
journolud said:
Their. Come on Dax you know better than that
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I sadly make that mistake too often. And I have no excuse. I catch when others do it when I read them, but somehow I do it too.

I just need to not be lazy and read my responses before posting. :!

Thanks for the correction
 
domalino said:
Oh I see you're playing the fucking moron again.
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You are so much better without the insults. You make your points with facts, argument and evidence better than most.

I'm not playing moron, I'm pointing out via Socratic method that there are legitimate basis for challenging the narrative...

However, my conclusion is that banning those ideas is wrong, for reasons I've already pointed out in a prior response.

But challenging their validity, isn't. How that can be done effectively is hard. But that is what needs to worked on.

Not resorting to weak-minded solutions.
 
Dax777 said:
You are so much better without the insults. You make your points with facts, argument and evidence better than most.

I'm not playing moron, I'm pointing out via Socratic method that there are legitimate basis for challenging the narrative...

However, my conclusion is that banning those ideas is wrong, for reasons I've already pointed out in a prior response.

But challenging their validity, isn't. How that can be done effectively is hard. But that is what needs to worked on.

Not resorting to weak-minded solutions.
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You are playing the moron. You asked a question you already knew the answer to, now you're pretending that republican CRT panic (literally an openly admitted manufactured panic to whip up the right wing) is legitmate and doesn't sound "incredibly insensible".

This disingenuous, poor man's Joe Rogan, "I'm just asking quesitons dude" bullshit is getting pretty fucking boring. If you want to pretend that every time a Republican does some incredibly stupid, hypocritical, racist bullshit we have to break it down to its very tiniest hypothetical roots and pretend it's not just incredibly stupid, hypocritical, racist bullshit then do it on your own time.
 
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