US Politics Thread

[west didsblue]

Yes, same as Boris here really or bellusconi in Italy - I'm sure there are others. I was responding to a point about TV interviewers who framed him as the next Hitler etc now giving him a platform. Whether we like it or not he's the next potus so some sort of news blackout or de-platforming would just be silly, or in fact something quite sinister.

No he’s not the same as Boris or even Berlusconi. Boris was a complete arsehole and totally unsuited for any job that involved taking responsibility for anything more important than splitting a dinner bill. Trump is on another level when it comes to criminality, lack of competence, stupidity, cowardice, narcissism or any other measure you might want to use. At least Johnson seemed to be sincere in his support of Ukraine. Trump just wants to hand it all over to Putin so he can claim he’s brought peace.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

If journalists need to be subservient and not report the truth in order to obtain 'privileged' access to the administration, then they aren't being journalists. The fact that so many media organisations are falling into line suggests that they are potentially fearful that their livelihoods may be at risk for speaking out against the incoming administration, and that is a very dangerous position to be in.

I'm not sure how you expect them to act? It's not their job to treat every encounter as an opportunity to take up the cause of upset democrats, they simply need to build rapport and extract information from him on his plans and intent for the next 4 years. There was relevance in holding him to account on the past prior to Nov 5, but the American electorate seemed to indicate that they were not all that bothered by it.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I'm not sure how you expect them to act? It's not their job to treat every encounter as an opportunity to take up the cause of upset democrats, they simply need to build rapport and extract information from him on his plans and intent for the next 4 years. There was relevance in holding him to account on the past prior to Nov 5, but the American electorate seemed to indicate that they were not all that bothered by it.

Extract information? It's not an interrogation.

Trump is never going to be truthful. The media need to be objective and report on the facts, not the bullshit. However, they don't need to ignore the bullshit or gloss over it like they did in the lead up to the election, they need to report it as bullshit and let their viewers make their own minds up about it.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Trump thinks he's more Al Capone than Adolf Hitler.

His picks for his new term seems to reflect that. Loyalty over everything is all he's bothered about.

He will treat the presidency as his own crime racket and will do everything to keep it for himself. Don and Eric expect to succeed him. I expect it will be Baron.

I find it quite telling his favourite daughter and Son in Law in public at least seems to distancing themselves from him.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Extract information? It's not an interrogation.

Trump is never going to be truthful. The media need to be objective and report on the facts, not the bullshit. However, they don't need to ignore the bullshit or gloss over it like they did in the lead up to the election, they need to report it as bullshit and let their viewers make their own minds up about it.

Tbh I think you are not seeing this through a neutral lens. It's like a Liverpool supporter getting angry that not every question pep gets asked in press conferences is about ffp or 115.
Republicans seem to think Kamala got an easy ride too.

 

[Dax777]

This pair likened him to a Hitler in the build-up to the election, and he's only got worse since. They have just casually falen into line like every other spineless jellyfish, one can only imagine at the behest of their network bosses and no doubt a sweetener to seal the deal. If they had any integrity as 'journalists' they would have either stuck to their principles or quit.

Why don't folks ever come to the obvious conclusion?

They were never Journalists. Activist Grifters? sure. Journalists? Not in a million years.

 

[Dax777]

Yes, same as Boris here really or bellusconi in Italy - I'm sure there are others. I was responding to a point about TV interviewers who framed him as the next Hitler etc now giving him a platform. Whether we like it or not he's the next potus so some sort of news blackout or de-platforming would just be silly, or in fact something quite sinister.

I think you are missing a relevant context here.
They are not giving him a platform. He is giving them a platform.

Joe and Mika are grifters. Their show (and MSNBC generally) has tanked since the elections. This sometimes happens to the stations that actively supports the losing candidates, and it's happening now.

The most likely ( and best option) is probably to cancel their failing show, and rebrand with new shows.

Mika and Joe running to Florida to bend the knee is simply an attempt to curry access favors from the new incoming government. This will potentially give them an argument for why MSNBC should keep their show because they have access.

In fairness, no one wants this make up other than the grifters. People on the right see them as the grifters they are who'd say or do anything to stay relevant and the left also now hates them for now making it obvious they were grifting all along.


Trump is trying to be magnanimous.hence why he is condoning this. No one wants this.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I would normally back the Dems but this is their and Bidens shameful legacy

 

[Dax777]

Is that a leak of his CV?

Zing!!!!!

 

[Username Required]

I do have a way that Democrats can save democracy from Hitler and the great unwashed. If you want to save democracy, just campaign on ending elections.

Or, pick up an "assault" rifle, organize a militia, and march on Washington. What self-respecting patriot could do less?

I expect Trump and most Republicans to believe he was such a strong candidate. He wasn't. He's got more baggage than a fully-loaded 747, I mean the guy LITERALLY led and organized a criminal conspiracy to subvert the Constitution (the one he swore to uphold) and install himself as POTUS.

Kamala (prounced Kamala) was such a weak candidate that despite preaching the apocalypse (or maybe because of it) millions of Biden voters sat it out, as did 90 million eligible voters whose alienation from their own government could not be overcome by claims Trump was an existential threat to democracy. At the same time, it's probably unwise to tell Americans that the rise they have seen in their cost-of-living is a figment of their imagination, the border is secure, and Joe Biden is "sharp as a tack."

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."