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Let’s see how you view Musk when he turns on Trump, the guy is dangerous.
There's no evidence for this. The people saying it are generally the same people who said the democrats would win. Sometimes it seems people genuinely confuse what is likely to happen and what they'd like to happen. The only people who seem to be falling out with musk are some twitter users post Nov 5th and Tesla owners who funded musks purchase of twitter - none of these groups are like trump. Billionaires like musk are very unlikely to fall out with trump, he's their guy.
 
There's no evidence for this. The people saying it are generally the same people who said the democrats would win. Sometimes it seems people genuinely confuse what is likely to happen and what they'd like to happen. The only people who seem to be falling out with musk are some twitter users post Nov 5th and Tesla owners who funded musks purchase of twitter - none of these groups are like trump. Billionaires like musk are very unlikely to fall out with trump, he's their guy.
Of course he will fall out, Trump doesn’t want to be seen as his puppet and in his shadow, if Trump feels threatened and Musk is getting more headlines he will drop him and old Elon won’t like that
 
Fair enough. I just think he's more likely to fall out with the ordinary voters that think he's about to make their lives better, than with a billionaire who will undoubtedly do just fine under trump.

How would a flasher and a rapist fall out?

Perhaps...

 
for 60% of the working class getting hurt the next four years, in reality they have been getting pummeled the last four. Real wages down. During Trumps four years real wages up and minority unemployment at all time lows. Inflation low under Trump while it has been raging the last four years.

Do you have statistics to back up this silly, partisan talking point? Or, would you prefer to ignore the global economic shutdown caused by COVID, and the Herculean efforts undertaken to bring the US economic engine back from the brink???

Let me help you out…

In February 2020, the United States entered what was by far the largest recession since the Great Depression. (This was under Trump, as seen by the date)

Nearly 22 million people lost their jobs, and real gross domestic product (GDP) fell 9.2 percent. (Again, this was the last year of the Trump Administration, when we ignored the warnings, then suggest drinking bleach and inserting ultraviolet lights into your system as a realistic course of medical treatment!)

Learning from mistakes made in prior recessions, Congress passed recovery legislation that prevented economic scarring and instead ensured a speedy and full recovery.

Thanks to bipartisan congressional efforts during the Trump administration and the Biden-Harris administration’s effort to continue the economic stimulus, the United States has more than fully recovered. In fact, economic growth has outpaced projections that were made before the COVID-19 pandemic.

In other words, the economy in 2024 is stronger than experts had predicted it would be in 2024 before COVID-19 even happened. And it is stronger now than it was projected to be by 2024 at the beginning of the Biden-Harris administration.

-/-/-/-

Hmmm, so Trump brought us the Great Recession, due to initially ignoring the Pandemic, because nothing bad could possibly be seriously discussed by him. Then, CONGRESS passed bipartisan packages to provide support for economic stability and growth.

Biden continued and increased these efforts to aid with the global inflation caused by the Pandemic, including providing millions without jobs the money needed to buy things and keep the economy from further collapse.

The result of COVID was a significant increase in prices (inflation) as many businesses saw an opportunity to pass along their increase in raw materials due to scarcity. That required economic activity to increase, so that production of goods could increase supply and better reflect demand, AND wages to increase to help cover the increased prices.

Was it successful? YES, of course it was!!!

Today, we have the best economy in the world, wages are the highest they’ve ever been, both nominally and in real terms, and the stock market is breaking records almost every day! (Trump’s yardstick, not mine!)

So, let’s roll out these statistics that prove you’re wrong, now…

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As you can see, from April 21 to December 22, we did have higher inflation than wage growth, but for the last TWO YEARS, REAL WAGES HAVE INCREASED, and the economy is even outpacing pre-COVID projections!

As you may not know, those same economists are now using Trump’s promises on migrant round ups, the closing of the border and the widespread use of tariffs to project up to a 9% CONTRACTION in the best U.S. economy in modern history and an increase in inflation!!!

That’ll fix what ails us, eh?! After all, who wants the best growth in the world, lower inflation, increases in real wages and a 50% increase in retirement savings over the last two years to continue during the next Trump years???
 
Of course he will fall out, Trump doesn’t want to be seen as his puppet and in his shadow, if Trump feels threatened and Musk is getting more headlines he will drop him and old Elon won’t like that
One of them is the richest man in the world and one wants to be, but has to settle for temporarily being the most powerful man in the world.

One is a natural born American, born into a family of a racist slumlord. That father taught him everything he knew. Thereafter, he has become an anti-Muslim, anti-immigration, xenophobic isolationist.

The other is a globalist foreigner who lived as an illegal immigrant (much like the other guy’s current wife!) on an F-1 student visa (but not going to school!), while working his way into positions that generated great wealth.

Nationalist xenophobe with power, illegal immigrant made good with lots of money, but both used to getting whatever they want, whenever they want it, and browbeating anyone they want, anytime they want, and with impunity, on their own social media platforms!

What could possibly go wrong?!
 
One of them is the richest man in the world and one wants to be, but has to settle for temporarily being the most powerful man in the world.

One is a natural born American, born into a family of racist slumlord. That father taught him everything he knew. Thereafter, he has become an anti-Muslim, anti-immigration, xenophobic isolationist.

The other is a foreigner who lived as an illegal immigrant (much like the other guy’s current wife!) on an F-1 student visa (but not going to school!), but worked his way into positions that generated great wealth.

Nationalist xenophobia with power, illegal immigrant made good with lots of money, but both used to getting whatever they want, whenever they want it, and browbeating anyone they want, anytime they want, and with impunity, on their own social media platforms!

What could possibly go wrong?!
Don’t forget his trans offspring
 
Do you have statistics to back up this silly, partisan talking point? Or, would you prefer to ignore the global economic shutdown caused by COVID, and the Herculean efforts undertaken to bring the US economic engine back from the brink???

Let me help you out…

In February 2020, the United States entered what was by far the largest recession since the Great Depression. (This was under Trump, as seen by the date)

Nearly 22 million people lost their jobs, and real gross domestic product (GDP) fell 9.2 percent. (Again, this was the last year of the Trump Administration, when we ignored the warnings, then suggest drinking bleach and inserting ultraviolet lights into your system as a realistic course of medical treatment!)

Learning from mistakes made in prior recessions, Congress passed recovery legislation that prevented economic scarring and instead ensured a speedy and full recovery.

Thanks to bipartisan congressional efforts during the Trump administration and the Biden-Harris administration’s effort to continue the economic stimulus, the United States has more than fully recovered. In fact, economic growth has outpaced projections that were made before the COVID-19 pandemic.

In other words, the economy in 2024 is stronger than experts had predicted it would be in 2024 before COVID-19 even happened. And it is stronger now than it was projected to be by 2024 at the beginning of the Biden-Harris administration.

-/-/-/-

Hmmm, so Trump brought us the Great Recession, due to initially ignoring the Pandemic, because nothing bad could possibly be seriously discussed by him. Then, CONGRESS passed bipartisan packages to provide support for economic stability and growth.

Biden continued and increased these efforts to aid with the global inflation caused by the Pandemic, including providing millions without jobs the money needed to buy things and keep the economy from further collapse.

The result of COVID was a significant increase in prices (inflation) as many businesses saw an opportunity to pass along their increase in raw materials due to scarcity. That required economic activity to increase, so that production of goods could increase supply and better reflect demand, AND wages to increase to help cover the increased prices.

Was it successful? YES, of course it was!!!

Today, we have the best economy in the world, wages are the highest they’ve ever been, both nominally and in real terms, and the stock market is breaking records almost every day! (Trump’s yardstick, not mine!)

So, let’s roll out these statistics that prove you’re wrong, now…

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As you can see, from April 21 to December 22, we did have higher inflation than wage growth, but for the last TWO YEARS, REAL WAGES HAVE INCREASED, and the economy is even outpacing pre-COVID projections!

As you may not know, those same economists are now using Trump’s promises on migrant round ups, the closing of the border and the widespread use of tariffs to project up to a 9% CONTRACTION in the best U.S. economy in modern history and an increase in inflation!!!

That’ll fix what ails us, eh?! After all, who wants the best growth in the world, lower inflation, increases in real wages and a 50% increase in retirement savings over the last two years to continue during the next Trump years???
Yeah, but what about the price of eggs?
 

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