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Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
There you go with the insults when you run out of reason. You know all your politicians are happy to sit back and see Palestinians butchered, but still need to pretend your cherished democrats are better. Cultish - and no, that's not a spelling mistake.
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No, I disagree with you and thought your comparison was stupid. It’s not a personal insult to call your stupid fucking comparison stupid. It’s merely a recitation of fact. Nor is it an insult to say you don’t really give a fuck what happens in Palestine. I may be wrong, but I’m not insulting you - it’s my observation based on the preponderance of the evidence having read your posts for many years.

But call them insults if you like.
 
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FogBlueInSanFran said:
If you’d said what he said was stupid you would have. But you didn’t. Nor did you criticiz(s)e that stupid vast generaliz(s)ation by the tweeter in question.

Why is that I wonder?
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Because it's blindingly obvious. As it is also blindingly obvious that both the democrats and republicans are content to standby and either actively assist or passively observe the slaughter. At least the maga loons are honest about it.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Because it's blindingly obvious. As it is also blindingly obvious that both the democrats and republicans are content to standby and either actively assist or passively observe the slaughter. At least the maga loons are honest about it.
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Oh. So you agree that Palestinian babies are innocent and that generaliz(s)ing about "Americans" per that tweet is stupid. After all, it's "blindingly obvious."

So then what have you to say about your generaliz(s)ation that "all your politicians are happy to sit back and see Palestinians butchered?"

It's doesn't appear obvious to me because I tend to think the issue is far more nuanced and, with all due modesty, I've probably spoken with more of them than you too.

Or maybe you have some proof that each and every one feels that way. Or each and every Democrat. Or that a Democrat used those precise words, or even simply the words that the one particular GOP guy in question did.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Oh. So you agree that Palestinian babies are innocent and that generaliz(s)ing about "Americans" per that tweet is stupid. After all, it's "blindingly obvious."

So then what have you to say about your generaliz(s)ation that "all your politicians are happy to sit back and see Palestinians butchered"?
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Certainly a working majority on both sides of the house seem to be. Forgive me if I've missed the democrat condemnation of the genocide or block on arms sales.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
The US has blocked the export of....

bulldozers.

The UK's response has been pathetic but they have done more, 30 of 350 export licences suspended.
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Yes, I'm aware of our own token effort. It must be annoying and slightly inefficient in terms of wasted ammo to have to shoot Palestinians rather than just bury them alive with bulldozers.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Certainly a working majority on both sides of the house seem to be. Forgive me if I've missed the democrat condemnation of the genocide or block on arms sales.
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Ohhhhh . . . now it's a "working majority." Funny how that's changed from "all."

Re. Tlaib condemned it. She's a Democrat. Guess that's not all then.

Now let's turn to the other comment about my "precious Democrats" (from the guy who voted for Reagan, Bush 1 and Romney, but whatever) who, by the way, I have never once defended on this topic -- ever. (Saying Biden and many other US politicians of both stripes are in a tough spot given the import of their pro-Israel constituencies -- which I have done -- is not the same).

Where do I stand on the issues here? Obviously you already know so I'll let you wax poetic.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Ohhhhh . . . now it's a "working majority." Funny how that's changed from "all."

Re. Tlaib condemned it. She's a Democrat. Guess that's not all then.

Now let's turn to the other comment about my "precious Democrats" (from the guy who voted for Reagan, Bush 1 and Romney, but whatever) who, by the way, I have never once defended on this topic -- ever. (Saying Biden and many other US politicians of both stripes are in a tough spot given the import of their pro-Israel constituencies -- which I have done -- is not the same).

Where do I stand on the issues here? Obviously you already know so I'll let you wax poetic.
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I don't care where you stand. You are cultish in your adherence to your chosen party, so it's not really a discussion as such. I just hope your lack of critical thinking and myopic thought doesn't rub off on the next generation.......
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Yes, I'm aware of our own token effort. It must be annoying and slightly inefficient in terms of wasted ammo to have to shoot Palestinians rather than just bury them alive with bulldozers.
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All it does is make digging the ditches for mass graves harder. Perhaps the IDF will just bomb the ground into craters rather than break a sweat. Or just leave the bodies to rot in the open.

The silver lining for foggy is that unlike Germany, the Americans haven't claimed that they have to support Israel's genocide because of shame about their own. Probably the sickest justification so far.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
All it does is make digging the ditches for mass graves harder. Perhaps the IDF will just bomb the ground into craters rather than break a sweat. Or just leave the bodies to rot in the open.

The silver lining for foggy is that unlike Germany, the Americans haven't claimed that they have to support Israel's genocide because of shame about their own. Probably the sickest justification so far.
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No, it's just business for them.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
The thing is, is that any worse than professing to be concerned about the slaughter of Palestinians while being complicit via inaction / tacit support?
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While i dont think thats what said Congressman said. I think saying innocent people ate not innocent is far was than people eho ste concerned. Regardless of whether they act against it or not.

And inaction is NOT support. Its just inaction. The viewing of in action as complicit tacit support is the very type of reasoning someone who thinks innocent children are not so innocent is suing.


Which unfortunately will make your reasoning quite similar to that Congressman's.

Come on MSC, you are way better than that.
 
DelToro said:
To be fair, we are witnessing the metamorphosis of a global superpower into a 6th form common room, albeit one stacked high with automatic rifles.

A bit of truculence is to be expected.
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History may invent a portmanteau word for it.

Trumpulence.
 
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