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Mike Lee @BasedMikeLee

"based"

Fucking hell. ha ha ha

Based is used approvingly to describe someone who projects a lack of concern about how others feel about their actions or opinions. It can also describe a thing, such as an action or event, perceived as both bold and commendable, especially if it challenges or flouts convention in some way.

...term was later taken up ironically in online circles by the alt-right...

...this pseudo-title became a commonly-applied ironic honorific for conservatives online. “Based” was particularly popular in the far-right spaces of Reddit, 4chan, Twitter and Discord...


Based has been appropriated by the alt-right online as a general term of praise, as if “un-woke.”

The re-invented based, as a signal of power and swagger, was picked up by the alt-right/white nationalist community online in the 2010s.

...referring to alt-right or right-wing conservative figures as based has become a sign of approval in online social-media forums like the pro-Trump subreddit, r/The_Donald.

On the other side of the spectrum, alt-right, white nationalist, and other Trump supporters online have, incongruously, adopted based for their own purposes. They routinely post on forums like Reddit with headlines describing someone whose actions they approve of as based (e.g. “Based Boris Johnson refuses to apologize for saying women in burkas look like letterboxes.”).

Do you even know what that image is?
 
There is absolutely nothing unbelievable about the US anymore.
I couldn't agree more.

In fact, it's eminently believable.

I don't know how to define fundamental evil, but that post has to be towing that line for both its lie and the implied consequences.

Such a thing should be an instant disqualifier, not just in a Senator, but in a co-worker, or a friend.

It is the politics of not just wishing for, but doing all in one's power, to make others you hate, or fear, or don't understand, suffer.

It's no longer a discussion about what the best way is to do the most social good for the most people at the most reasonable cost.

People of different parties can and do disagree about that. That's not what this is.

This is taking from one side -- life, freedom, happiness -- to make that side suffer. And then delighting in their suffering.
 
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Speaker of the Minnesota House Melissa Hortman was murdered in a political assassination.

A couple of days ago I read an article written before the assassination which featured an interview with Melissa Hortman. She was perfectly clear that she refuses to throw in the towel when it comes to talking to Republicans, and she talked about problems Democrats are having in representing rural and agricultural areas. She said that as far as she was concerned her job was to represent not just cities and suburbs but also rural areas.

It all made me think of this article, from Jacobin, dated June 11th. It's by Meagan day, associate editor, who I enjoy reading.


Today Coke County, Texas, has no Democratic Party chair. Neither do Oldham, Sterling, Glasscock, Roberts, or seventy other counties in Texas. All told, over a quarter of Texas counties have Democratic Party vacancies. That figure has doubled in the last decade.

Nationwide the number of county Democratic Party vacancies is 20 percent, according to a new paper by Clinton Willbanks and Michael E. Shepherd, titled “Texas in the Rear-View Mirror? How the Democratic Party Ignores Rural America and Underperforms in Elections.” Since 2016, their study finds, the Democratic Party has operationally withdrawn from rural America, leaving vast swaths of the country without organized opposition to Republican candidates.

By contrast, Republicans maintain chairs in every single county in Texas and do not have a corresponding vacancy problem in cities.

Across the United States, only 4 percent of rural counties lack Republican chairs. In other words, Democratic vacancies in rural counties are six times higher than Republican vacancies — and growing.

Nationally, Willbanks and Shepherd found, Democrats failed to field congressional candidates in 12 percent of rural counties, while Republicans contested every rural district. In Texas, the problem is even more severe: 63 percent of rural counties had uncontested state senate seats where Democrats simply didn’t run anyone.

So on and so forth. Weird huh?
 
Speaker of the Minnesota House Melissa Hortman was murdered in a political assassination.

A couple of days ago I read an article written before the assassination which featured an interview with Melissa Hortman. She was perfectly clear that she refuses to throw in the towel when it comes to talking to Republicans, and she talked about problems Democrats are having in representing rural and agricultural areas. She said that as far as she was concerned her job was to represent not just cities and suburbs but also rural areas.

It all made me think of this article, from Jacobin, dated June 11th. It's by Meagan day, associate editor, who I enjoy reading.


Today Coke County, Texas, has no Democratic Party chair. Neither do Oldham, Sterling, Glasscock, Roberts, or seventy other counties in Texas. All told, over a quarter of Texas counties have Democratic Party vacancies. That figure has doubled in the last decade.

Nationwide the number of county Democratic Party vacancies is 20 percent, according to a new paper by Clinton Willbanks and Michael E. Shepherd, titled “Texas in the Rear-View Mirror? How the Democratic Party Ignores Rural America and Underperforms in Elections.” Since 2016, their study finds, the Democratic Party has operationally withdrawn from rural America, leaving vast swaths of the country without organized opposition to Republican candidates.

By contrast, Republicans maintain chairs in every single county in Texas and do not have a corresponding vacancy problem in cities.

Across the United States, only 4 percent of rural counties lack Republican chairs. In other words, Democratic vacancies in rural counties are six times higher than Republican vacancies — and growing.

Nationally, Willbanks and Shepherd found, Democrats failed to field congressional candidates in 12 percent of rural counties, while Republicans contested every rural district. In Texas, the problem is even more severe: 63 percent of rural counties had uncontested state senate seats where Democrats simply didn’t run anyone.

So on and so forth. Weird huh?
The clue as to why it isn't at all weird is in the first word and first number in the summary of the article.

Yet another otherwise intelligent writer banging their head fruitlessly against a wall.

No one can successfully defeat a cult. They must collapse of their own volition.
 
The clue as to why it isn't at all weird is in the first word and first number in the summary of the article.

Yet another otherwise intelligent writer banging their head fruitlessly against a wall.

No one can successfully defeat a cult. They must collapse of their own volition.
I understand you see no positives at this point in engaging or trying to figure out ways to undermine Trump's coalition, but others have a different perspective. One question people are wrestling with is whether any of this has been caused by Trump himself, or whether it is more a case of correlation does not equal causation.

Anyway, surely the issue here is that the article adds a little flesh to the bones, providing actual data, when it comes to the question of rural disengagement, something Melissa Hortman, a DFL House Speaker who represented a swing district for 20 years clearly saw as a moral problem to be overcome, a normative issue, not just a matter of statistical probabilities.

An awful lot of people are hoping to see the Democrats take the House in the mid-terms. Every day I read about dysfunction and fighting within the Democratic Party, and a slew of unfortunate facts. 99% of it I don't bother posting about. It's demoralizing for many.

I forgot about this one. From a week ago.

The last rural Democrat in Kentucky’s state senate just switched parties. Robin Webb is wrong that Republicans better represent her coal-country constituents, but she’s right that Democrats lost interest in them long ago.

The last remaining Democratic state senator in rural Kentucky just announced she’s switching parties. Robin Webb’s partisan defection leaves the thirty-eight-member Kentucky State Senate with only six Democrats, all in the Lexington and Louisville areas. Explaining her decision on Fox News, Webb accused the Democratic Party of abandoning rural voters.

 
Wow just reading about the others politicans, the Hoffmans, they were shot 17 times, him 9 and her 8 and they appear to be in recovery. How can you get shot 9 times and live? Was it a weak gun? Sorry if it sounds a bit morbid.
 
I suppose it may turn on how people see Trump's coalition. I think it is weak. "Membership" is on a spectrum. We know it is on a spectrum because at a minimum members self-report.

Joan C. Williams, Yale, MIT, Harvard.

American (feminist) psychologist who is Distinguished Professor of Law (Emerita) at University of California College of the Law, San Francisco. Described as having "something approaching rock star status” in her field by The New York Times Magazine, she has published 12 books and 116 academic articles in law, sociology, psychology, and management journals.

e.g. Williams, Joan C. (2025) Outclassed: How the Left Lost the Working Class and How to Win Them Back.
Williams, Joan C. (2017). White Working Class: Overcoming Class Cluelessness in America. Williams, Joan C. (2010). Reshaping the Work-Family Debate: Why Men and Class Matter.

Williams’ work on social class extends the French sociologist Pierre Bourdieu’s insight that class is expressed through cultural differences between elites and non-elites.


To win on social issues, the Left has to develop the cultural competence to connect progressive goals with working-class priorities. The gay marriage fight offers a formula for appealing to ordinary Americans’ values without giving up on social progress.


Joan C. Williams argues that progressives and leftists aren’t doomed to keep losing working-class voters — if they can stop dismissing the cultural principles that grant average Americans’ lives dignity.


Two writers, Thomas Frank and Joan Williams, provided sharp insight into the Democrats’ hemorrhaging of working-class voters eight years ago. The Democratic Party ignored their perspectives. We asked them to explain how we ended up here — again.

 
Not ro be a conspiracy theorist here...
but how does an overweight middle aged man with a limp end up in a shoot out with the cops in front of a legislator's home and then is allowed to run into the home, murder the legislator and her husband and then allowed to escape through the back door...

The level of fishiness/incompetence is hard to stomach :(
 
Not ro be a conspiracy theorist here...
but how does an overweight middle aged man with a limp end up in a shoot out with the cops in front of a legislator's home and then is allowed to run into the home, murder the legislator and her husband and then allowed to escape through the back door...

The level of fishiness/incompetence is hard to stomach :(
Have you read the reports or just garnered that from one of your ‘feeds’ from conspiracy theorists?

You are in the cult but I won’t be claiming my £5.
 
Not ro be a conspiracy theorist here...
but how does an overweight middle aged man with a limp end up in a shoot out with the cops in front of a legislator's home and then is allowed to run into the home, murder the legislator and her husband and then allowed to escape through the back door...

The level of fishiness/incompetence is hard to stomach :(
Are you ok?? This is the first sensible thing you have posted:-)
 
I thought leftist was a wank term, but based takes it to another level.

I guess the social media loons are running out of clever portmanteaus to use and are just picking random letters or words to try and create the next buzzword.


They’re just flanks, in my opinion, as a sauced man.
 
I thought leftist was a wank term, but based takes it to another level.

I guess the social media loons are running out of clever portmanteaus to use and are just picking random letters or words to try and create the next buzzword.


They’re just flanks, in my opinion, as a sauced man.

Old conservative men co-opting slang a decade too late is a tired trope.
 
NY Mayoral candidate Brad Lander arrested for having the audacity of walking out of court with a migrant who just won his case against ICE.

The migrant has been rearrested by ICE officers as well.

Usual suspects will be on shortly to defend fascism.
The immigration hearings are kangaroo courts. Most of those appearing have obeyed the law and reported themselves at the border as asylum seekers. They have then gone through the legal process which, inter alia, requires them to attend immigration hearings before a court. ICE and the DoJ have now turned these hearings into a method of refusing the application for asylum. Thus, these people have “No status” and can, therefore, be subject to immediate deportation.
A judge is not required for these hearings, merely a lay assessor. In the case for which Lander was detained, the immigrant had no lawyer and the court provided a translator for him who did not speak the immigrant’s language.
Lander was detained for 3.5 hours, I suspect just to keep him out of the way while they re-arrested the immigrant and whisked him off to an unknown detention centre. Lander was released without charge to resume his campaign to be elected as mayor.
America, the land of the free.
 
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