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KS55 said:
Belgium went more than a year with no gov, I think nearly two years. The economy thrived. Hmmm…
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Strong devoluted councils keeps things ticking over when this - regularly - occurs there. Belgium has numerous governments: one for each of the languages spoken (Dutch, French, German), a Brussels capital govt, as well as central govt.

Its central govt is the one which has had absences a number of times in the last few decades (nearly two years on three occasions) but the other govts can cope without it.

The USA has a similar system with states being governed in a federalised manner.

Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland would probably okay if this happened with the UK govt, but could you imagine England if it had to be run by its councils?! Fucking hell, it’d be carnage!
 
.db. said:
Strong devoluted councils keeps things ticking over when this - regularly - occurs there. Belgium has numerous governments: one for each of the languages spoken (Dutch, French, German), a Brussels capital govt, as well as central govt.

Its central govt is the one which has had absences a number of times in the last few decades (nearly two years on three occasions) but the other govts can cope without it.

The USA has a similar system with states being governed in a federalised manner.

Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland would probably okay if this happened with the UK govt, but could you imagine England if it had to be run by its councils?! Fucking hell, it’d be carnage!
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Maybe but cases alter policies. Manchester, eg, currently out performs UK in growth terms. In general terms, though, devolution is necessary. Manchester has a unique set of devolved powers under the Northern hub policies, and it works!
 
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Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland would probably okay if this happened with the UK govt, but could you imagine England if it had to be run by its councils?! Fucking hell, it’d be carnage!
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If councils were given more resources and more power, and central government commensurately less, then the country would unquestionably be better run in my view.
 
Main Stand Hotdog said:
Sorry, I'm coming at it from the mindset of someone that believes what the Trump Admin have been reporting I think it was sometime in June or July they claimed zero 'illegals' crossed for 3 days.
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Was this the 31st, 32nd and 33rd of June?
 
Main Stand Hotdog said:
Sorry, I'm coming at it from the mindset of someone that believes what the Trump Admin have been reporting I think it was sometime in June or July they claimed zero 'illegals' crossed for 3 days.
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FFS. If you believe that anything Trump or his administration says is to be believed without verification - then you're so deep into the Kool-aide that you're beyond reach.

"They're eating cats and dogs."
"Mexico will pay for the wall."
"The Jan. 6th capital invasion claims are false - it was an FBI plot."
"Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything."
Trump isn't guilty of infidelity against his wives.
Trump isn't guilty of keeping classified, top secret documents, against the law, and of lying to the FBI about this and interfering with the FBI investigation. And there's no way that boxes of top secret documents were to be found in a closet in Mar-A-Lago.
Trump is in no way suspect of potential wrong doing in the Epstein files case. I mean there's no way that Trump sent Epstein lewd birthday greeting cards - and Trump, loyal to his wife and a non pussy grabber - there's no way that he'd entertain the possibility of sex with young women - nay underage girls. And of course Trump is absolutely free from blame in this regard - hell all of the Epstein files - 100% of them - have been released to the public!

And on, and on, and on, and on. The list above could run pages and pages. If you still support Trump in spite of all of the above, you are either a horrid person, or you are in a cult (or perhaps both).
 
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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
FFS. If you believe that anything Trump or his administration says is to be believed without verification - then you're so deep into the Kool-aide that you're beyond reach.
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I don't mate. There are a fair amount Reform Party Members/Politicians/Voters here in the Uk that do. My original post was asking those people if they'll be watching the US over the next few years to see what happens when the MAGA philosophy they align with plays out and if it'll effect how they vote at the next general election.
 
Main Stand Hotdog said:
I don't mate. There are a fair amount Reform Party Members/Politicians/Voters here in the Uk that do. My original post was asking those people if they'll be watching the US over the next few years to see what happens when the MAGA philosophy they align with plays out and if it'll effect how they vote at the next general election.
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Cheers.

I misinterpreted this:
"Sorry, I'm coming at it from the mindset of someone that believes what the Trump Admin have been reporting "

to mean that you're of this mindset.

Apologies.
 
And right on cue the AG of Arizona writes to Maga Mike Johnson: swear in our rep forthwith or face a lawsuit.
I wonder how he will wriggle out of that one.
 
Main Stand Hotdog said:
My original post was asking those people if they'll be watching the US over the next few years to see what happens when the MAGA philosophy they align with plays out
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MAGAts are too stupid and distracted by Trump to notice that MAGA is dead and the Rise of White Christian Nationalism is the Cult of the Day, Week, Month and Decade.

Trump has been given virtual carte blanche to flood the zone, do his deals, and grift on an almost cosmic scale, so the White Christian Nationalists pulling the strings reshuffle, reorder and assert their agenda on the actual REAL political and legal infrastructure of the United States.

They have their Supreme Court and their have their vain, stupid, patsy in the White House. He is too up his own arse to care, because they’ve given him free rein to be the grifter he needs to be to create his oligarchical family, such that they’ll be untouchable in world business and finance, including crypto, until they die or are assassinated in the future.

Their real man is the VP…someone NO-ONE KNEW about a year before bursting on the scene with Peter Thiel money backing him. He is their Manchurian Candidate.

And, why do you think the US went bat shit crazy for a few weeks over Charlie Kirk, a self-avowed religious nut job? Because he was their social media mouthpiece, Gen Z booster! Why do you think they quickly anointed his bleached blonde, Stepford Wife, pure white, photogenic Mrs to run his affairs? She’s in on the plot, too.

Why is Mike Johnson, from a podunk district in Louisiana, the #49 or #50 state in most State quality metrics, the House Speaker and 3rd in line to the throne? Have you heard him speak on religion???

Trump is merely the front for a Right-Wing, Christian Nationalist COUP taking place in front of all of our eyes. He creates the heat that feeds the 24/7/365 news cycle, while the big money Christian Nationalists at the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society, and within the uber rich world of private capital rearrange their deck chairs and sun loungers for the Christian Nationalist Cruise season they are creating in the back room.

The names Miller and Vought were virtually unknown to most people a year or two ago. Today??? They’re the two most powerful people in Washington right now, emphasis on Washington, as Trump plays in the global tariff sandpit and tries to lord over world affairs.

There is a second American Revolution taking place, both in word and in deed, as the WCNs push their agenda through THEIR SCOTUS, bought and paid for over decades by the very same people funding the WCN Coup underway behind the scenes now.

Just look up organizations like Ziklag, a private, invitation-only community of wealthy Christian families that funds a wide array of political and cultural efforts to promote Christian nationalism. Its donor members include some of the wealthiest conservative Christian families and business executives. Ziklag funds groups like Alliance Defending Freedom and Turning Point USA (yes, Charlie Kirk’s old gig!) and advocates “dominion over the seven mountains” of American society (arts, media, business, church, education, family, government, science and technology). Not to mention The Center for Renewing America, led by Russell Vought (yes, you recognize that name now!). This conservative Christian organization actively prepares for embedding Christian nationalist principles into government policy and Republican Party infrastructure, closely tied to former President Trump and his allies.

Then, there’s the Heritage Foundation (via Project 2025 and its Mandate for Leadership), perhaps the most prominent conservative think tank, which is associated with a detailed blueprint to remake American government around Christian nationalist ideals, targeting executive actions, social policies, and culture wars issues such as gender and reproductive rights.

Their “legal arm” is run by organization by legal and advocacy groups like Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), which is instrumental in influencing court rulings aligned with Christian nationalist values, including those that helped overturn Roe v. Wade.

Like Bannon said, let Trump “flood the zone,” giving the media too much to soak up, even in their 24/7/365 coverage, because you’re creating activity too intense for anyone to synthesize in real time. Meanwhile, you do the REAL WORK TO CHANGE THE COUNTRY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AWAY FROM PRYING EYES, and when someone brings it up, you scoff, cajole, belittle, then attack any opposition!

And here we sit, not even getting to listen to Nero playing his fiddle!
 
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