US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

What do you tell them when the vote is close, but not official?

I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest you’re just not used to American elections and what does and does not happen at these things.

Should she have waited until about 6am, when the NYT called it, and thanked the 8 people still there for staying?

She had a campaign official come out and say there would be no speech tonight…because there was no speech to give, and I expect one to be given today.

However, your extrapolation is both petty and naive, but you do you when you’re Vice President and you’ve just lost a ridiculously consequential election!

Or, maybe she should have come out, tell the world that Trump is only the SECOND OLD WHITE MAN to have fucked the country this election cycle, because Biden fucked us first when he ran again, even after intimating he wouldn’t, and then created a situation where there was only one person who COULD really run, because they were the one with access to all the money!

Sorry not lots of experience with US elections seeing as I am British citizen. See votes dont mean seats in this country, but I imagine you had an opinion on our election system back in July?

Anyone with a brain cell could see what was happening. Yet some wanted to portray and provide false hope that 100,000s of extra votes were going to come and save key areas which never was going to materialise. It was clear very early which direction this was going.

This is what I meant about Harris blinkers, blaming everyone else, bar the actually problem for underperforming.15 million less votes than Biden currently. Clearly some substantial issues.
 
Is there provision within the constitution for states to secede from the union?
Can see places like California (plus the west coast states) and New York (plus the rest of New England) thinking fuck this after a year or two because it’s the large Dem states that will be paying for Trump’s shit show, and they might decide they’re better alone.
I’ve previously predicted this will happen eventually, and this result will certainly not make that outcome less likely, but it’s at least a generation away imo, and I don’t think there’s provision (like an Article 50), no.
 
Just so people are aware. One third of US women live under an abortion ban. If a woman has a miscarriage and the healthcare she needs includes the removal of any foetal matter, that is classed as an abortion. If the woman is not treated because doctors fear for their licences she may die of a uterine bleed. Trump wants such women PUNISHED in these circumstances.
My daughter suffered a uterine bleed and lost 3.5 litres of blood. Happily she recovered but some don’t. My daughter in law suffered similarly. The surgeon said “We nearly lost her”.
These bans are cruel and inhuman.
But they only happen to women. USA, USA, USA!!!
 
It was too crass to simply hit “LIKE” as I wanted to thank you for sharing a personal story that can apparently not be understood without someone as brave as you giving a very personal testament to what is happening.

Even in places where abortion is still “legal” clinics close down because of threats, lack of funding, lawsuits and the threat of them, the inability to get insurance, etc, etc, etc…

Thank you for sharing your personal traumatic events to help illustrate the reality of the situation. My own daughter had a very close friend who died because of complications that no-one would treat for fear of losing the baby and being prosecuted for murder. She apparently didn’t meet the threshold of “life of the mother” until too late and died trying to give birth. Needless to say, she is beside herself at what men (and millions of religious women) have done to women in the last few years and especially the last 24 hours.

It's crazy in a country "like" America. Hard to understand, really. Those of you affected directly or indirectly, and there are presumably a lot of you, have my sympathy fwiw.
 
Sorry not lots of experience with US elections seeing as I am British citizen. See votes dont mean seats in this country, but I imagine you had an opinion on our election system back in July?

Anyone with a brain cell could see what was happening. Yet some wanted to portray and provide false hope that 100,000s of extra votes were going to come and save key areas which never was going to materialise. It was clear very early which direction this was going.

This is what I meant about Harris blinkers, blaming everyone else, bar the actually problem for underperforming.15 million less votes than Biden currently. Clearly some substantial issues.
I’m going to politely not reply to that word salad, lest I say things I regret, as the phrase “wrestling pigs” comes to mind, but I will remind you I am a Dual National, born and raised in England, who emigrated to the US for university, got married and stayed here, so I have experience of both types of politics and elections.
 
The ethnic minority often live in areas with high crime rates. They care more "law and order".
I can tell you many Chinese immigrates vote Trump for this reason.
Ah, you speak for American citizens as well as Chinese citizens and the Chinese government.

Quite the omniscient one.
 

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