US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

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west didsblue said:
If we’re carrying on with the pedantry then yes.
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Sorry, I only deal with facts or opinion. If I think it’s a false fact I’ll call it out. If it’s a difference of opinion I either disagree with it, question it, or accept it as a difference of opinion, because you have to do that, right?!

Honestly, I’m more than happy to be wrong on facts, and I love it when I get called out, I can re-assess everything, and I do.

But nothing is getting past me . I read here more than I post, sometimes for balance, but I’m a manc and a city fan, so I like the consensus, even if I can’t understand how you collectively get to opinions sometimes.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Exactly.

Sadly, in this instance, I believe in the freedom of people to say what they want.

However, it’s the algorithms that DRIVE INFLUENCE that I have the problem with. That is manipulation of speech via hidden agenda.
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100%. 100% and 100% some more with 3 like hits.

Edit: And I have to ask this, where do you get your information?

Do you balance it out, over multiple, multi national news broadcasters, and then search for independent consensus, let’s say on social media?

Edit: I already know the answer is no on this place, I’m just being a wum there ;)
 
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FogBlueInSanFran said:
Everyone keeps saying they fucked up. I’m getting tired of asking the same question.

No one has offered a winning solution to a candidate willing to lie and lie and lie and lie and millions who believe him.

Lay out your strategy for how you’d have defeated him then.

And don’t moan about Biden’s late exit — I already said he should have dropped out at the latest after the midterms back then.

I’m all ears — we all are.
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I think you are underestimating the crappiness of your candidate, the situation she faced, the campaign she ran, and the headwinds she faced.

Trump won because he lied so effectively? So you really think if a prime Obama or Clinton would have lost to Trump even given the headwinds created by this administration?? I don’t.

I have no strategy that would have seen Harris win this election. That’s like asking me to win the champions league with Rochdale or the Kentucky derby with Mr Ed.

You had nothing to work with in Harris. She hardly answered any questions. She supported some pretty lame, very left wing positions which she tried to distance herself from.

If she had so much confidence in herself or her handlers had confidence in her, she would have gone on Rogan. I am convinced he would have been fair but she couldn’t stand the heat. She is not battle tested.

The book was all but written when they denied Sleepy, Creepy Joes decline. The Democrats that claimed Joe was sharp as a tack (Harris included) should be ashamed of themselves.
 
Frank the Yank said:
I think you are underestimating the crappiness of your candidate, the situation she faced, the campaign she ran, and the headwinds she faced.

Trump won because he lied so effectively? So you really think if a prime Obama or Clinton would have lost to Trump even given the headwinds created by this administration?? I don’t.

I have no strategy that wouldn’t have seen Harris win this election. That’s like asking me to win the champions league with Rochdale or the Kentucky derby with Mr Ed.

You had nothing to work with in Harris. She hardly answered any questions. She supported some pretty lame, very left wing positions which she tried to distance herself from.

If she had so much confidence in herself or her handlers had confidence in her, she would have gone on Rogan. I am convinced he would have been fair but she couldn’t stand the heat. She is not battle tested.

The book was all but written when they denied Sleepy, Creepy Joes decline. The Democrats that claimed Joe was sharp as a tack (Harris included) should be ashamed of themselves.
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Yeah, that’s how I see it. The democrats lost their own voters. The trump clowns didn’t gain much. What’s the turnout in that country? Like 40-50%? Half the country has either given up and/or decided that it makes no difference.

Edit: I’m with the second half, I wouldn’t have voted for either too.
 
bluesteel said:
Yeah, that’s how I see it. The democrats lost their own voters. The trump clowns didn’t gain much. What’s the turnout in that country? Like 40-50%? Half the country has either given up or decided that it makes no difference.

Edit: I’m with the second half, I wouldn’t have voted for either too.
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I haven’t seen any info about turnout. I would also be very curious to see the demographic breakdown as well.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Exactly.

Sadly, in this instance, I believe in the freedom of people to say what they want.

However, it’s the algorithms that DRIVE INFLUENCE that I have the problem with. That is manipulation of speech via hidden agenda.
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Do you think people should be free to express racist views?
 
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