US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I’m staying here, I refuse to watch the boys going down in flames.

That was a pretty awful seven minutes.

 

[Frank the Yank]

Frank,

The “Border Crisis” is a manufactured one, exacerbated by Republican Governors and Trump not allowing the Border Bill to pass.

The country NEEDS low wage immigrants more than the fancy visa crowd, but the solutions were not allowed to work.

For the bulk of Biden’s term, they were working with some of the most conservative voices in DC to get a BIPARTISAN BILL. If Biden had taken executive action, it would have blown up the legislative process, and we all know legislation is what is needed.

Biden held and held and held and then got the Bill, until Republican Cultists thought they could make hay with the issue and cut even their own men off at the knees. Then, Biden was forced to issue Executive Orders, but it was too late for it not to be used as a dull, blunt object…which is EXACTLY WHAT IT IS unless you’re willing to look under the hood!

Do you know how many miles of border there are between Mekiko and Murica?

1961 miles.

Don’t know how many miles of Border Wall Trump built at great expense and fanfare?

52 miles.

Do you know how many miles Mekiko paid for?

ZERO!!!

It’s a political football built out of the FUD Agenda that Fascist live off, nothing more.

There’s no way in hell one bill would have fixed all the issues. No way. The worst thing Reagan did was give amnesty to millions of illegals. Part of that bill was the promise to “seal the border”. Fool me once shame on you…

Any bill that gives a swift pathway to residency and citizenship would be disgraceful and unfair.

You think the negative issues at the border are “manufactured “. Good for you. I couldn’t disagree more. Tell that to Laken Riley’s family.

Even if you are correct and it’s “manufactured “ that’s not the perception of the majority of the electorate. In this case perception is reality.

Tell that to the overburdened taxpayers of large American cities ( mostly if not all deep blue) that the bills are “manufactured “.

All Harris could do was talk about the “root causes “. That was her mantra and did fuck all about it as “ Border Czar”.

If the situation wasn’t as serious as I make it out to be, then Harris would piss the election.

For today and the purposes of this thread this is old news. Actually doesn’t matter as to what will happen over the next 10 hours or so.

 

[BlueHammer85]

At 10pm will we have our a big hint of who has won ?

 

[bluethrunthru]

fuck me he is not even trying - she isn't even a lookalike

 

[KS55]

Yep @ FogBlueinSanFran.We are shot. Tired out. Had to happen one day. The future is bright, the future is blue. At least I can hope for a Harris win.

 

[bluethrunthru]

At 10pm will we have our a big hint of who has won ?

Sadly looking like Sporting

 

[Elbow beards]

At 10pm will we have our a big hint of who has won ?

Won't be City.

 

[Frank the Yank]

At 10pm will we have our a big hint of who has won ?

At 1000 pm east coast USA time?? No. Don’t think the polls will even be closed in NV and AZ.

I don’t think any of PA, WI, MI or NC will be called and probably not GA either.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

There’s no way in hell one bill would have fixed all the issues. No way. The worst thing Reagan did was give amnesty to millions of illegals. Part of that bill was the promise to “seal the border”. Fool me once shame on you…

Any bill that gives a swift pathway to residency and citizenship would be disgraceful and unfair.

You think the negative issues at the border are “manufactured “. Good for you. I couldn’t disagree more. Tell that to Laken Riley’s family.

Even if you are correct and it’s “manufactured “ that’s not the perception of the majority of the electorate. In this case perception is reality.

Tell that to the overburdened taxpayers of large American cities ( mostly if not all deep blue) that the bills are “manufactured “.

All Harris could do was talk about the “root causes “. That was her mantra and did fuck all about it as “ Border Czar”.

If the situation wasn’t as serious as I make it out to be, then Harris would piss the election.

For today and the purposes of this thread this is old news. Actually doesn’t matter as to what will happen over the next 10 hours or so.

The problem, as you know, is that most of these “illegals” are NOT illegal AT ALL!

The Asylum process is broken and , as “Border Czar” (a Trump term!) the main thrust of fixing the problem was working with Senators she knew (much as Biden did for Obama!) to get LEGISLATION to fix the problem.

Some old anti-immigrant tropes and nuggets getting trotted out, as usual, so as an immigrant myself, I’ll leave it alone.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

At 10pm will we have our a big hint of who has won ?

No! The polls dont even close out there til hours after that