US Tariff War

The free market and tariffs.
Trump talks about offending countries i.e. those who have trade surpluses with USA. To call them offenders who have been ‘taking advantage of the US’ is just nonsense.
In a free market, sellers may promote and distribute their goods but they cannot force the buyer to purchase. The trade deficit that the U.S. has is merely the result of the decisions by the buyers. So, if there is an offender, that is the American consumer or company.
USA is about 5% of the worlds population but, depending on what and how you are measuring the USA consumes 3 to 5 times that figure. (Side note: USA produces 30% of the world’s trash.)
The correct course of action for the US if it wishes to eliminate trade deficits is to target the foreign goods and services which the US consumes ‘too much’ of, but to do it on a macro basis. So, if the US consumes too much foreign oil, target ALL oil. Thus a US sales tax would meet this need without all the rigmarole and bad feeling that tariffs engender. On the other hand, it makes more sense just to take the deficit on the chin, using the huge wealth the US has.
Meanwhile, the US makes a huge profit from the dollar’s role as a reserve currency in which many trades are conducted. I don’t suppose Trump includes this in his calculations. This points to an unconsidered effect of tariffs: the rise of rival reserve currencies. In the future, oil sales may not be in petrodollars but in petroeuros, or ‘petro brics francs’ for example. That would cost the US big time.
 
The large tech firms such as Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, X or Twitter what ever it’s called. Amazon, get your coke from Aldi and not buy the branded stuff.
Don’t drink Coke, eat MD or KFC not on Facebook or X, will stop buying Nike running gear and look for an alternative but NB and UA are both US owned too I think and the Karimor stuff is shite.

Have to make what I’ve got last, which was something I’d decided to do anyway this year as I realised I have way too much stuff like clothing and wanted to go the whole year without buying anything new.
 

For starters: Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Walmart, Tesla, Visa, McDonalds, Mastercard, Coca Cola, IBM, Nike, Starbucks, Ford, Dell, Adobe, KFC, American Express, Dell, Citibank, Gillette, Colgate, Adobe, Proctor & Gamble, Costco, Fedex, Uber, Oracle, Cisco, Intel, Facebook, Disney, Pepsi, Netflix.​


Choose a brand that you can do without and stop using them...completely.
Cadbury Kraft now manufacture quite a lot in USA and export to us, the cheeky bastards.
 
The FT is saying the way the tariff rates were calculated was actually nothing to do with tariffs imposed on the US. It was just to take the net import/export number and divide that by the amount the US imported. So Bangladesh has trade deficit of 6.2 Billion divide that by 8.4 Billion of goods imported by the US = 74% “tariff”. It really is that stupid.

And the administration is saying this is the best way to do it because it is the “sum of all the cheating and currency manipulation”.

I would say it is the sum of US companies benefiting from cheap raw materials from places like Cambodia which they are using to create low priced products for their own consumers.

You know why Cambodia doesn’t buy much back from the US? Because it’s fucking poor that’s why, people aren’t demanding the import of Teslas or Levi’s jeans on the streets of Phnom Penh. The average salary there is like $200 a week.

The whole thing is just the weirdest and most arbitrary act of self-harm I’ve ever seen.
 

For starters: Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Walmart, Tesla, Visa, McDonalds, Mastercard, Coca Cola, IBM, Nike, Starbucks, Ford, Dell, Adobe, KFC, American Express, Dell, Citibank, Gillette, Colgate, Adobe, Proctor & Gamble, Costco, Fedex, Uber, Oracle, Cisco, Intel, Facebook, Disney, Pepsi, Netflix.​


Choose a brand that you can do without and stop using them...completely.
You’d struggle with most of the tech companies. What option is there other than Apple or Google (Android) for your mobile phone.

Loads of systems in medical environments and obviously nearly every company uses Microsoft. The CPU in pretty much every computer is Intel or AMD (owned by Blackrock Inc). Cisco is the industry standard for networking. Other than VISA, Mastercard and Amex who else is there with credit cards that people accept ? Diners Club (Canadian) but you will struggle to find anyone outside of Canada who accepts it.

It’s exceptionally difficult to decouple yourself from American ownership. Even if you do in many cases you are just trading one extreme regime (USA) for another (China).
 

For starters: Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Walmart, Tesla, Visa, McDonalds, Mastercard, Coca Cola, IBM, Nike, Starbucks, Ford, Dell, Adobe, KFC, American Express, Dell, Citibank, Gillette, Colgate, Adobe, Proctor & Gamble, Costco, Fedex, Uber, Oracle, Cisco, Intel, Facebook, Disney, Pepsi, Netflix.​


Choose a brand that you can do without and stop using them...completely.
I need Adobe for my work and if there were a truly viable alternative (free or paid) I'll jump immediately - however I threatened to cancel my Adobe contract yesterday and they offered me half price for 12 months
 
Keep reading boycott US goods but do we really know what constitutes US?

McDonald’s
KFC
Nike

There’s Chevrolet too but I ain’t in the market for a new car anyway.

After that I’d struggle.

Amazon

but youngsters aren't going to boycott any of those things and i still love a KFC.

only one that's working is Tesla.
 

For starters: Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Walmart, Tesla, Visa, McDonalds, Mastercard, Coca Cola, IBM, Nike, Starbucks, Ford, Dell, Adobe, KFC, American Express, Dell, Citibank, Gillette, Colgate, Adobe, Proctor & Gamble, Costco, Fedex, Uber, Oracle, Cisco, Intel, Facebook, Disney, Pepsi, Netflix.​


Choose a brand that you can do without and stop using them...completely.

Hold on I work for one of them..... :)
 
Hold on I work for one of them..... :)
Well I think you should do the right thing as a proud Englishman and tell them you can no longer support working for a business which benefits the orange man.

It might make you poorer but you can feel better in yourself on your way to the job centre :-)
 
Hold on I work for one of them..... :)
The US economy is a vast global machine. You can’t avoid it. I have a local hospital appointment tomorrow. The hospital is choc full of American products from data systems to medical machines or their parts.
 
Maybe this view is simplistic, i hold my hands up to being a million miles from any sort of expert..

With these worldwide tariffs that the silly **** is throwing about, wont the consumers ultimately seek alternatives and buy from other countries ?
 
Sorry if already covered, i couldnt see specifically....

But as the likes of KFC and McD's are franchises...how much (what %) of each branches earnings/profits go back to "Colonel Sanders" and "Ronald McDonald"?

Would the impact on the local franchisee and local employees not be much more detrimental?
 

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