Vaccination Passport | Fans will be denied entry without valid NHS pass

[Citizen of Legoland]

People make choices and need to live with the consequences. That's life.

But we tend to try and stop people harming others, is the pertinent fact here.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

But we tend to try and stop people harming others, is the pertinent fact here.

I think both points are pertinent. As a society we make collective choices in order to protect public health, but people should be free to avoid being part of that if they wish. That is their choice and the hallmark of a free society, but they must accept that there are consequences for them, much the same as people who choose not to take a driving test cannot lawfully drive a car on a public highway.

Princioles are fine, but they cannot be consequence free, otherwise they aren’t really principles, but choices. There is a difference.

Socoety can only function effectively if those who step outside conventions are free to do so, as long as it is lawful, but they must accept that there will be inconveniences for so doing. There’s no such thing as a free lunch.

People need to own their fucking decisions.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

I think both points are pertinent. As a society we make collective choices in order to protect public health, but people should be free to avoid being part of that if they wish. That is their choice and the hallmark of a free society, but they must accept that there are consequences for them, much the same as people who choose not to take a driving test cannot lawfully drive a car on a public highway.

Princioles are fine, but they cannot be consequence free, otherwise they aren’t really principles, but choices. There is a difference.

Socoety can only function effectively if those who step outside conventions are free to do so, as long as it is lawful, but they must accept that there will be inconveniences for so doing. There’s no such thing as a free lunch.

People need to own their fucking decisions.

Ah, got your point now. I agree.

 

[LongsightM13]

Thanks for that. I would have used contemporary media articles to look for it.

Plenty of those available as well if anyone doubts that this lunacy actually took place

#UsePens Has Gone From EU Voting Conspiracy Theory To Full Blown Hysteria

What is actually going on?

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

MediaWatch - UK's EU referendum: 'I would #usepens but it was a bic from France so I didn't bother'

Conspiracy theorists came centre stage during referendum voting with 'Brexit supporters urged to not use pencils provided but take their own pens to polling stations amid fears of an MI5 conspiracy'.…

amp.france24.com

'Pencilgate' as voters bring pens to polling stations after fears EU referendum could be 'rigged'

Conspiracy theorists are warning votes could be rubbed out if they're made in pencil

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Leave supporters are very suspicious about the pencils at polling stations

Nearly a third of Ukip voters believe MI5 are involved in a plot to rig the vote, according to a survey this week

www.independent.co.uk

EU referendum: 'Use pens' plea of voting fraud 'conspiracy theorists' - BBC News

Could your EU referendum vote be tampered with if you use a pencil? Some people have their suspicions.

www.bbc.co.uk

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/23/pencil-or-pen-an-unusual-conspiracy-theory-grips-brexit-vote/

 

[Blue Theatre]

Ah yes - the best thing about social media is that it gives everyone a platform for their views.
And the worst thing about social media is that it gives everyone a platform for their views.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Ah yes - the best thing about social media is that it gives everyone a platform for their views.
And the worst thing about social media is that it gives everyone a platform for their views.

Surely the worst thing about social media is Miguel Delaney.

 

[Bluebeemer]

I think both points are pertinent. As a society we make collective choices in order to protect public health, but people should be free to avoid being part of that if they wish. That is their choice and the hallmark of a free society, but they must accept that there are consequences for them, much the same as people who choose not to take a driving test cannot lawfully drive a car on a public highway.

Princioles are fine, but they cannot be consequence free, otherwise they aren’t really principles, but choices. There is a difference.

Socoety can only function effectively if those who step outside conventions are free to do so, as long as it is lawful, but they must accept that there will be inconveniences for so doing. There’s no such thing as a free lunch.

People need to own their fucking decisions.

We have speed limits on the roads to prevent people harming themselves and others. The same argument as used for vaccinations could easily and justly be applied to speed limits, an infringement of liberty, a restraint on those drivers who enjoy fast driving.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

I’m a crank in real life as well Jimmy ;)

Its a pre-requisite for all supporters of gods's own team

 

[eastmanc]

Ah yes - the best thing about social media is that it gives everyone a platform for their views.
And the worst thing about social media is that it gives everyone a platform for their views.

Never a true word spoken. All the waifs and strays think they are experts .

 

[wahablue]

I had my booster jab back in October,but it doesn’t show on the NHS site,Iused the “ Covid)passport to go on holiday( 2 jabs) is this a new passport to get into games or do they need a newly issued one.