Var debate 2019/20

[blue moony]

It's fucking wank

End of debate.

Always thought you talked sense ;-)

 

[seafordblue]

So does a normal lineman’s flag. The difference is that VAR is 1000x more likely to get a result right.

Took two minutes to disallow the goal on Saturday and still was incorrect. So, no it's not 1000x more likely to get it right.

It stopped play for too long, and led to the follow up real third goal having a hesitant muted celebration.

A linesman's flag is instant and 99% of the time correct.

We don't need VAR for anything but clear cut errors. The disallowed goal was not clear cut then and still is not now...

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Disallowing a brilliant team goal like Sterling's against West Ham because his armpit was a couple of millimetres offside is simply ridiculous , if the decision is so tight the benefit should go to the attacker like it has done in previous years. Its the blatant offsides the likes of the Dippers benefitted from last season when its's over a metre offside , these are the decisions VAR should be correcting ,the clear and obvious mistakes . If its only 10mm then go with the lino/referee , constantly undermining the officials will knock their confidence.

 

[Cheer Up Peter Reid]

Fifa rules say when the player touches or plays the ball, nothing about it leaving a players foot. That’s a nothing thing that appears to be wrong and different to what we’re always told.

FA rule is

The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside

That seems clear to me, it seems the VAR refs and pundits are not aware.

 

[kaz7]

I don't trust anything that doesn't show us the offside from the down the line angle,showing me dots from above or at a side angle doesn't convince me,show it from the linesmans point of view,that is the angle we are used to seeing then swing into the other angles to show it close up

 

[SWP's back]

Took two minutes to disallow the goal on Saturday and still was incorrect. So, no it's not 1000x more likely to get it right.

It stopped play for too long, and led to the follow up real third goal having a hesitant muted celebration.

A linesman's flag is instant and 99% of the time correct.

We don't need VAR for anything but clear cut errors. The disallowed goal was not clear cut then and still is not now...

I started replying to each point but it’s pointless really isn’t it. I’m not going to convince you and I disagree.

I hope the system improves to the point where it’s not ruining football for you.

 

[SWP's back]

FA rule is

The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside

That seems clear to me, it seems the VAR refs and pundits are not aware.

You’re not wrong.

 

[kaz7]

You'll moan until VAR saves us in a crucial game - and I think that moment will come sooner than you might think.

I think we get more chalked off than given as where raz was on the shoulder is where we are for most of our goals,a couple of mm's should not be enough to rule goals out,i feel like we have mission creep already,i'm never going to say thank you VAR for saving us as imo it won't be many times

 

[lloydie]

That’s incorrect, it’s 50 FPS. I posted three links previous stating that.

There are two fields per frame - colour and monochrome making it effectively 1/25s.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

The system is still open to manipulation from the VAR decision maker , the Premier league do not want us to run away with the title again , they need a competitive league , i fully expect us to be on the wrong side of the VAR decisions when they are totted up come the end of the season , and the opposite will apply to the Dippers , there will be no Easter title presentation this year , VAR will see to that.