VAR Discussion Thread | 2024/25

VAR was brought in for people to make money out of the game, we as the punters have no say whatsoever in the running of the game and what we feel is detrimental to it.

The game is run by cunts for cunts and until people stop going and starving these parasites out of the game it'll continue.
 
VAR was brought in for people to make money out of the game, we as the punters have no say whatsoever in the running of the game and what we feel is detrimental to it.

The game is run by cunts for cunts and until people stop going and starving these parasites out of the game it'll continue.
I could not find which stakeholders make money out of it. I dont see any links to PL hierarchy, or to PGMOL member sitting on the board of Hawkeye etc.

At IFAB level maybe there is something because they seem very politically keen to get it into football and keep it there and PGMOL/PL and others actually fighting back on some of the latest aspects of their rollout. Even so it is all very strange that they are sticking with it as much as they are.
 
VAR was brought in for people to make money out of the game, we as the punters have no say whatsoever in the running of the game and what we feel is detrimental to it.

The game is run by cunts for cunts and until people stop going and starving these parasites out of the game it'll continue.

So, what are you getting at? You like it or not?

Drop the ambiguity. I've got stuff to do.
 
Another VAR cock-up in the Portugal v Ireland game when handball was given by the referee against Ireland it was very clear on the replay that it hit the player in the chest not his arm understood why the ref gave it however VAR did not ask him to look at it despite every video angle being clear that the ref was wrong Justice was done when Ronaldo's effort was saved
 
I did quite a few games with Tony Harrington when he was starting out. When I saw he had progressed to the football league a few years ago I was very surprised. Now he's stumbled into the PL a couple of years ago I am totally amazed. His main problems IMO is his lack of confidence in himself.
 
I did quite a few games with Tony Harrington when he was starting out. When I saw he had progressed to the football league a few years ago I was very surprised. Now he's stumbled into the PL a couple of years ago I am totally amazed. His main problems IMO is his lack of confidence in himself.
Is he the one who looks scared of his own shadow?
 
I think this was your first post in the chain?:

"Before VAR came in, 82% of decisions made by officials were correct.
Since VAR has been introduced, 96% of decisions made have been correct.
It was always needed but we need to entice and train a better talent pool of officials because the current crop and depth of talent aren’t/isn’t good enough.
The technology itself is fine."

Leaving aside the paradox in saying the results are much better but the people operating it aren't good enough, I, for one, haven't seen anything that supports that improvement in correctness other than by quoting the organisations that are responsible for operating the thing in the first place.

Before I believe that stuff, I would like to see the methodology explained (what does correct decision even mean: what is a correct decision? who determines correctness? on what basis? which incidents were determined to be correct? which weren't?) and the detailed analysis published so they can be analysed by third parties and the results assessed critically.

It just isn't good enough to say, "the PL says ....", "PGMOL says ....", "IFAB says ....", or "independent panel" when in reality it's five washed up ex-players and referees on a PL financed gravy train. They aren't KCs with any professional integrity to call upon.

So, no, I won't believe those statistics until people who are smarter than me have reviewed and assessed them independently.

As for the quality of VAR officials, I think it's a hopeless situation for them. They have my sympathy. The corrupt bastards. They are expected to apply rules that are largely subjective to the letter and consistently, without the excuse referees used to have that they are only human and have to make decisions instantly. It just isn't possible. And each time they get a decision wrong, they have fucked a game up.

You couldn't pay me to do it.
I believe the increase in accuracy quoted isn’t quite what it appears.

Going back circa 10 years ago PGMOL were claiming that in excess of 99% of decisions made were correct


The recently claimed increase I think is around key decisions where VAR has intervened but even then the supposed experts weren’t able to agree unanimously on the majority of those decisions and that’s not surprising because most laws in football aren’t a matter of fact.

I detest VAR with a passion it’s done nothing to improve the experience for match going nor do I personally think it’s actually helped simply because the obvious calls were by and large made correctly now we get strange comments like he was held but not for long enough or not enough for a penalty yet anywhere else on the pitch it would be a foul.
 
sickening players could get away with being unpunished or just a yellow for stuff like that.
And it wasn’t the first time either, Nicky Summerby when he was at Sunderland and Thatcher was at Wimbledon. Should have been banned sine die for that.c
 
There was a simple solution, retrospective punishment. But no, we have to get fucking var instead.

There was retrospective punishment - he was given an eight-match ban. what good is that to the opposition during a match though ?

why would you not want the ref to have a second look and give a red ? (well, maybe not in case when its your own player that deserves a red! but in general)
 
There was retrospective punishment - he was given an eight-match ban. what good is that to the opposition during a match though ?

why would you not want the ref to have a second look and give a red ? (well, maybe not in case when its your own player that deserves a red! but in general)
How many times has an incident like that happened compared to the number of errors that have resulted from VAR the penalty against Ireland for Portugal no slow motion freeze frame required it was clear that the ball hit his chest yet VAR didn’t recommend a review
 

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