Veganism

[smudgedj]

Does it? I mean surely if we were adapted to eat meat we would be adapted to kill our prey? We really have little evidence to support the fact we evolved to kill. Despite intelligence, our bodies are hardly conditioned to catch prey. Meat consumption was most likely easier for early humans, taking into account their little, or no, understanding of cultivation. It makes sense that as a species it's something we have accepted as easier, despite now knowing we can grow our own food. I'm not saying we should all stop eating meat, I just feel we should have less killing...

Thankfully one day there will be no killing, as we will be growing all our meat;)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23576143

Here's a picture of me catching my prey. I went at night and grabbed it whilst it was asleep. I then slit it's throat with a knife. Poured boiling water on it and removed the feathers. I then gutted it, and put it in the fridge.
I seem to be pretty well adapted to do this.

Maybe because of this.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17439362

Consumption of more animal foods with early Homo was likely important for providing
high levels of key long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids (docosahexaenoic acid and
arachidonic acid) that are necessary for brain growth.

 

[Tanzeylee]

Does it? I mean surely if we were adapted to eat meat we would be adapted to kill our prey? We really have little evidence to support the fact we evolved to kill. Despite intelligence, our bodies are hardly conditioned to catch prey. Meat consumption was most likely easier for early humans, taking into account their little, or no, understanding of cultivation. It makes sense that as a species it's something we have accepted as easier, despite now knowing we can grow our own food. I'm not saying we should all stop eating meat, I just feel we should have less killing...

Thankfully one day there will be no killing, as we will be growing all our meat;)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23576143

I think we might have adapted quite well to catch and kill our food

 

[smudgedj]

I think we might have adapted quite well to catch and kill our food

I'm sticking to chickens.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

Pure gold this:

 

[bellbuzz]

Pure gold this:

There are some very unbalanced people who are out and about, this particular version of a train wreck could do with a big steak and a hug from desperate Dan.

 

[Sir peace frog]

Pure gold this:

fucking crackpot

 

[jimharri]

Pure gold this:

Shouldn't she be out saving whales, hugging trees, eating tofu burgers and campaigning for Corbyn?

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

 

[bellbuzz]

Must get those chops out of the freezer tomorrow.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

She eats fish. So not a vegan.

Nice picture.

Ah yes, smoked mackerel, cod and chips, lobster, crab, sea bream, I eat all of that and I am the male version of her ;)

 

[jimharri]

Ah yes, smoked mackerel, cod and chips, lobster, crab, sea bream, I eat all of that and I am the male version of her ;)

She's a bit on the thin side though. Still, nothing a couple of big Macs wouldn't fix.

 

[Metalartin]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-40496863/lab-grown-meat-the-future-of-food

 

[MellowJoe]

The carnists won't have an argument soon. Once in-vitro meat replaces the need to slaughter sentient animals, the factory farms will be shut and outlawed. The suffering scales will be slightly, yet still significantly tipped on the planet. A certain amount of wasted suffering will cease to exist.

 

[PragueBlue]

She eats fish. So not a vegan.

Nice picture.

Never understood people that claim to be vegetarians but still eat fish, as though fish are somehow less deserving of life than a cow or chicken.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

The carnists won't have an argument soon. Once in-vitro meat replaces the need to slaughter sentient animals, the factory farms will be shut and outlawed. The suffering scales will be slightly, yet still significantly tipped on the planet. A certain amount of wasted suffering will cease to exist.

Rabbit and venison stew is wonderful.

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

I rarely eat meat and if I do I try to find out if the animal I am eating has been smiled at in life. When I do eat meat it usually is a response to my body craving it.

 

[Magicpole]

I consider animals a lower form of life than us as they lack consciousness and even rudimentary intelligence. They're essentially walking plants who we prescribe human values and behaviours to because it satiates our nurturing desire, biologically programmed to release endorphins and happy thoughts into us so we don't just leave our kids in the middle of a bush somewhere. The science behind what animals we find cute and not cute, edible and inedible is mostly about how they share similar characteristics to children.

I'm absolutely a speciest. I'd wipe out every white tailed deer in the world if it cured cancer and do it without a moment's hesitation.

The biggest evolutionary benefit to an animal now is to be useful to humans. That isn't even a debate, it's a fact as anybody who has looked at global chicken and populations or the decline of the global horse population over the past 100 years will attest to. We keep them and breed them in order to satisfy our hunger. The ones that irritate us are generally wiped out on a global scale unless they serve some purpose that we have identified.

Too many humans think they're above nature and because they have developed consciousness the rules just don't apply any longer. I say that's nonsense and a look at the ecological record shows it to be ignorant nonsense. We're still under the development of evolution, we're still shaping nature to fit us and adapting to the new conditions no different from any other animal on the planet. Animals constantly and consistently uproot and wipe out populations of other animals. We're just better at it then they are.

I don't have compassion for animals because I don't have compassion for bacteria, or viruses, or plants and see them ranked along the same lines. This doesn't mean I don't love my dog or have a collection of cat skulls in my basement, it means that although I love my dog I recognise it as ultimately inferior to every human being alive by almost every metric apart from my own sentimentality borne out of what is essentially my own invention.

I have seldom met anyone who has no compassion for animals who wasn't the same with people.

Are you the exception?

 

[billfromthehill]

If we weren't supposed to eat animals, they wouldn't make them out of meat.

Haha quality

 

[talkativesprout]

The carnists won't have an argument soon. Once in-vitro meat replaces the need to slaughter sentient animals, the factory farms will be shut and outlawed. The suffering scales will be slightly, yet still significantly tipped on the planet. A certain amount of wasted suffering will cease to exist.

and then cattle will become extinct leading to vast swathes of green land becoming redundant and farmers needing to sell to developers, that can then build executive apartments that they can sell to bankers, we will need extra estate agents. so not having a piece of lovely cow has led to the extinction of various sentient animals the loss of green belt, more bankers and heaven forbid a great deal more estate agents...I hope you fuckin proud of yourself you pasty faced demons :)

 

[Ban-jani]

I consider animals a lower form of life than us as they lack consciousness and even rudimentary intelligence. They're essentially walking plants who we prescribe human values and behaviours to because it satiates our nurturing desire, biologically programmed to release endorphins and happy thoughts into us so we don't just leave our kids in the middle of a bush somewhere. The science behind what animals we find cute and not cute, edible and inedible is mostly about how they share similar characteristics to children.

I'm absolutely a speciest. I'd wipe out every white tailed deer in the world if it cured cancer and do it without a moment's hesitation.

The biggest evolutionary benefit to an animal now is to be useful to humans. That isn't even a debate, it's a fact as anybody who has looked at global chicken and populations or the decline of the global horse population over the past 100 years will attest to. We keep them and breed them in order to satisfy our hunger. The ones that irritate us are generally wiped out on a global scale unless they serve some purpose that we have identified.

Too many humans think they're above nature and because they have developed consciousness the rules just don't apply any longer. I say that's nonsense and a look at the ecological record shows it to be ignorant nonsense. We're still under the development of evolution, we're still shaping nature to fit us and adapting to the new conditions no different from any other animal on the planet. Animals constantly and consistently uproot and wipe out populations of other animals. We're just better at it then they are.

I don't have compassion for animals because I don't have compassion for bacteria, or viruses, or plants and see them ranked along the same lines. This doesn't mean I don't love my dog or have a collection of cat skulls in my basement, it means that although I love my dog I recognise it as ultimately inferior to every human being alive by almost every metric apart from my own sentimentality borne out of what is essentially my own invention.

Bang on