Vegetarianism

[kippaxkid74]

I went to a dinner party a while ago and the vegetarian hosts gave us vegetarian food - they justified this with 'we are vegetarians and don't eat meat'


I don't mind vegetarians at all, free world, each to their own and so on but I did ask how they'd feel if I served them a big juicy steak and said 'we are meat eaters and find a meal without meat bland'

It's their house and if they don't want to cook meat it's up to them, If you didn't know they were veggie maybe you shouldn't go to dinner parties of people you don't know well enough in future eh? Esp as according to you veggies tell everyone in advance that they are veggie - well you didn't know did you!!

Yes i've been veggie for 26 years, and i wouldn't cook meat for anyone either, so now that that bombshell is over back to the thread that will no doubt be full of trolls (yes i haven't read past page 1 and don't intend to - as 26 years of it has taught me that the internet is full of meat eaters that DESPISE a veggie and like to tell you that the veggie is the bullshit one, when in my experience it's meat eaters who are nastiest online, and i just dont need that stress no more!) (Only clicked on this to read page one and wish the OP all the best!)

 

[bumbleblue]

I was a veggie many years ago when i was a student. In retrospect I think it was about money and my then partner being a veggie. My daughter has just decided to give up meat too. I think its a personal choice but I am increasingly concerned about the stuff going into factory farmed meat and food in general. I love steaks and well all of it really but...i feel like the romantic ideal of happy free range organic farms is a myth and a great industrial complex is grinding out poor quality high fat water pumped drug infused fodder for us. Making them rich and us dependent. Sorry gone off on one there...just my musings on it all.

 

[Bill Walker]

Don't mind most vegetarians at all. It's the ones who do it for attention and the ones who still eat fish that piss me off?!? like wtf is about? You feel fine eating fish but eating any other animal is murder. Fuck quorn as well, if you don't want to eat animals then don't eat fake animal meat.

I just think people should be allowed to eat what they think is right for them without being lambasted by others

I dont tell you what to eat do I? its nothing to do with me, and if you decided to eat any old thing why should it "piss me off"

why does what I chose to eat piss you off ?

me not eating dead animals has nothing to do with animal cruelty, its a lifestyle choice not to eat drug infested meat

 

[Bill Walker]

Any vegetarian who drinks milk but who opposes the eating of meat is nothing but a hypocrite. Veganism is at least consistent.

I've had the usual whining lecture about eating animals from people who have a pint in front of them entirely oblivious to the ingredients. People can do whatever they like, but be consistent and don't moralise.

Well Im sorry for being a hypocrite

 

[Bill Walker]

Don't mind most vegetarians at all. It's the ones who do it for attention and the ones who still eat fish that piss me off?!? like wtf is about? You feel fine eating fish but eating any other animal is murder. Fuck quorn as well, if you don't want to eat animals then don't eat fake animal meat.

Sorry for pissing you off also

 

[BlueHalli]

I stopped eating meat about two years ago and iv never been tempted to eat meat again. I don't shout about it and feel the need to let everyone know about it. The compete opposite, in fact. I try to keep it to myself as I get a strange reaction when 'one of the lads' types asks why. Iv chosen not to eat meat as I don't see why animals should go through so much just so I can satisfy my taste buds. Even my missus tries getting me to eat meat again from time to time.

I'm not one of these overly strict types. I'll happily fry my veg sausage's along with meat sausages. I also seldom eat seafood but not very often at all.

 

[BlueHalli]

Any vegetarian who drinks milk but who opposes the eating of meat is nothing but a hypocrite. Veganism is at least consistent.

I've had the usual whining lecture about eating animals from people who have a pint in front of them entirely oblivious to the ingredients. People can do whatever they like, but be consistent and don't moralise.

Well Im sorry for being a hypocrite

I think he's getting vegetarians and vegans mixed up.

 

[bumbleblue]

I've just watched the video we were warned not to watch...meet your meet. Wish I had taken their advice now...I find it very difficult to say I won't eat meat or use milk....but..nothing justifies that cruelty. So blue moon veggies and vegans pls help ..I want to do this but not sure I can give up me bacon butties and steak. Wtf do I replace them with and what about protein and calcium? Sorry if this sounds daft.. pls feel free to take the piss or be helpful, to each their own and all that.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

I've just watched the video we were warned not to watch...meet your meet. Wish I had taken their advice now...I find it very difficult to say I won't eat meat or use milk....but..nothing justifies that cruelty. So blue moon veggies and vegans pls help ..I want to do this but not sure I can give up me bacon butties and steak. Wtf do I replace them with and what about protein and calcium? Sorry if this sounds daft.. pls feel free to take the piss or be helpful, to each their own and all that.

I posted this on page 2. Don't give up your regular diet immediately - allow your body to adjust gradually, go one day off and one day on meat, then 2 off and one on, 3 off and one on etc. Don't know if they are available in the UK, but I have Tofurkey bacon..... cook it at work and people say ''thought you were a veggie'' as the smell is very authentic! Cauldron (I think) do a decent fake peppered steak which I would get from Asda.

Been veggie since 1998. Don't miss it, will cook meat dishes for others, got no issue doing that, just don't want to eat it.
It is so easy being a veggie, the supermarkets have all the brands and their own.
Some say the veggie chicken / beef is a little bland, but when placed in a curry sauce or pasta sauce etc, tastes really nice.
I would get the Quorn chicken pieces and a chicken tonight sauce with pasta or rice and a salad and it was great :)
The Quorn (or Asda's own) mince pieces was very tasty in a pasta sauce for bolognaise or a chili.

You can get Quorn or other brands of ham / turkey / chicken slices and add sliced tomatoes and lettuce for a delicious sandwhich (or a barm ;-) )

Linda McCartney sausages are the best for a fry up with eggs (free range, of course) mushrooms, beans and even Quorn bacon strips!

There are veggie burgers of all kinds, chicken burgers, chicken wings, spicy buffalo wings, Xmas turkey - everything (I once had fishless fish fingers from The 8th Day....)

For away games on the train or coach, Quorn do scotch eggs, veggie pasties and sausage rolls that can be eaten cold.

Eating out is no issue these days with all places offering way more than the solitary cheese flan and chips from yester year.

 

[Bill Walker]

I've just watched the video we were warned not to watch...meet your meet. Wish I had taken their advice now...I find it very difficult to say I won't eat meat or use milk....but..nothing justifies that cruelty. So blue moon veggies and vegans pls help ..I want to do this but not sure I can give up me bacon butties and steak. Wtf do I replace them with and what about protein and calcium? Sorry if this sounds daft.. pls feel free to take the piss or be helpful, to each their own and all that.

Tonight Im making pan fried fish (fried in olive oil and a touch of ginger with green leaves (rocket/spinach etc) and curried pumpkin and a fresh french stick

piece of piss

hope that helps

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

I've just watched the video we were warned not to watch...meet your meet. Wish I had taken their advice now...I find it very difficult to say I won't eat meat or use milk....but..nothing justifies that cruelty. So blue moon veggies and vegans pls help ..I want to do this but not sure I can give up me bacon butties and steak. Wtf do I replace them with and what about protein and calcium? Sorry if this sounds daft.. pls feel free to take the piss or be helpful, to each their own and all that.

Tonight Im making pan fried fish (fried in olive oil and a touch of ginger with green leaves (rocket/spinach etc) and curried pumpkin and a fresh french stick

piece of piss

hope that helps

This is a vegetarian thread.

 

[Bill Walker]

I've just watched the video we were warned not to watch...meet your meet. Wish I had taken their advice now...I find it very difficult to say I won't eat meat or use milk....but..nothing justifies that cruelty. So blue moon veggies and vegans pls help ..I want to do this but not sure I can give up me bacon butties and steak. Wtf do I replace them with and what about protein and calcium? Sorry if this sounds daft.. pls feel free to take the piss or be helpful, to each their own and all that.

Tonight Im making pan fried fish (fried in olive oil and a touch of ginger with green leaves (rocket/spinach etc) and curried pumpkin and a fresh french stick

piece of piss

hope that helps

This is a vegetarian thread.

my apologies

I'll stay away

 

[Blue Mist]

I've been veggie for about 6 months. I've lost over a stone and not really missed anything (except maybe MacDonalds double cheese burgers). One thing that has surprised me though is how annoyed some people get with me when they find out I'm veggie. I've never really taken an interest in what other people eat yet some people take it like a personal insult.

Hang on that cannot be described as giving up meat, giving up cardboard, yes giving up tasteless, processed shite yes but please don't say it is meat.

 

[Barcon]

I've just watched the video we were warned not to watch...meet your meet. Wish I had taken their advice now...I find it very difficult to say I won't eat meat or use milk....but..nothing justifies that cruelty. So blue moon veggies and vegans pls help ..I want to do this but not sure I can give up me bacon butties and steak. Wtf do I replace them with and what about protein and calcium? Sorry if this sounds daft.. pls feel free to take the piss or be helpful, to each their own and all that.

Tonight Im making pan fried fish (fried in olive oil and a touch of ginger with green leaves (rocket/spinach etc) and curried pumpkin and a fresh french stick

piece of piss

hope that helps

I take it you freeze the piss first?

 

[Pelly Greeny]

I went to a dinner party a while ago and the vegetarian hosts gave us vegetarian food - they justified this with 'we are vegetarians and don't eat meat'


I don't mind vegetarians at all, free world, each to their own and so on but I did ask how they'd feel if I served them a big juicy steak and said 'we are meat eaters and find a meal without meat bland'

It's their house and if they don't want to cook meat it's up to them, If you didn't know they were veggie maybe you shouldn't go to dinner parties of people you don't know well enough in future eh? Esp as according to you veggies tell everyone in advance that they are veggie - well you didn't know did you!!

Yes i've been veggie for 26 years, and i wouldn't cook meat for anyone either, so now that that bombshell is over back to the thread that will no doubt be full of trolls (yes i haven't read past page 1 and don't intend to - as 26 years of it has taught me that the internet is full of meat eaters that DESPISE a veggie and like to tell you that the veggie is the bullshit one, when in my experience it's meat eaters who are nastiest online, and i just dont need that stress no more!) (Only clicked on this to read page one and wish the OP all the best!)

I did know that they were vegetarians - they told me often enough, as you people do.
And if that's how it works then it's my house, my dinner party, my choice of menu and I'll serve what I want.

I wouldn't do that though. don't force my choice of what I eat on them so why should they do it to me? Had they said beforehand that they didn't like to cook meat and would that be ok, I'd have been happy with that. Maybe they shouldn't have invited us if they didn't know us well enough to know that being told 'you will accept our food choice and you do not have any other option' would be seen as quite rude by us. Like I said, ask me or explain but don't just do it.


My girlfriend is a vegetarian and we probably eat at as many vegetarian restaurants as we do 'normal' ones. I always find something I like on the menu and she gets a better choice than the usual offering of a vegetable based soup and either goats cheese salad or vegetarian lasagne.
If she's eating at mine I'll do meat prep well away from the veg and plate her stuff up first. I try and keep any meat being cooked on top of the cooker as far away from everything else as I can - especially if it's being pan fried. Any carving or dealings with cooked meat is done well away from her food.

So hopefully you'll see I'm not a nasty meat eater, quite a considerate one actually, I just don't like having other peoples choices forced on me especially as I'd never dream of doing that to them.

 

[Blue Mist]

So far we have Nimrod, kippax kid and two other posters who say they are vegetarian but as far as I can see that's shallot.






It took me ages to think of that.

Oh hang on cancel that Nimrod is a Presbyterian that's different isn't it.





Great post by the way.

 

[Stuuuuuu]

I've just watched the video we were warned not to watch...meet your meet. Wish I had taken their advice now...I find it very difficult to say I won't eat meat or use milk....but..nothing justifies that cruelty. So blue moon veggies and vegans pls help ..I want to do this but not sure I can give up me bacon butties and steak. Wtf do I replace them with and what about protein and calcium? Sorry if this sounds daft.. pls feel free to take the piss or be helpful, to each their own and all that.

It's virtually impossible to be protein deficient. All organic matter is composed of proteins. The only documented cases of protein deficiency that I'm aware of, were in people who were literally starving (and hence not eating much of anything). Calcium is everywhere (soya milk is full of calcium, as are beans, broccoli and nuts, for example).

It's great that you watched Meet Your Meat. I feel that it's our responsibility to make ourselves aware of where our food comes from. If I'm going to pay a company to provide me with food, I want to know where it came from and what processes were involved. Not only do I want to know, but I feel I have a responsibility to. The short video mentioned above does a good job of that. And here it is:

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32IDVdgmzKA[/video]

 

[Ancient Citizen]

I've just watched the video we were warned not to watch...meet your meet. Wish I had taken their advice now...I find it very difficult to say I won't eat meat or use milk....but..nothing justifies that cruelty. So blue moon veggies and vegans pls help ..I want to do this but not sure I can give up me bacon butties and steak. Wtf do I replace them with and what about protein and calcium? Sorry if this sounds daft.. pls feel free to take the piss or be helpful, to each their own and all that.

It's virtually impossible to be protein deficient. All organic matter is composed of proteins. The only documented cases of protein deficiency that I'm aware of, were in people who were literally starving (and hence not eating much of anything). Calcium is everywhere (soya milk is full of calcium, as are beans, broccoli and nuts, for example).

It's great that you watched Meet Your Meat. I feel that it's our responsibility to make ourselves aware of where our food comes from. If I'm going to pay a company to provide me with food, I want to know where it came from and what processes were involved. Not only do I want to know, but I feel I have a responsibility to. The short video mentioned above does a good job of that. And here it is:

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32IDVdgmzKA[/video]

Very entertaining.
Think I'll have some black puddings for supper.

 

[Phil Meup]

I've just watched the video we were warned not to watch...meet your meet. Wish I had taken their advice now...I find it very difficult to say I won't eat meat or use milk....but..nothing justifies that cruelty. So blue moon veggies and vegans pls help ..I want to do this but not sure I can give up me bacon butties and steak. Wtf do I replace them with and what about protein and calcium? Sorry if this sounds daft.. pls feel free to take the piss or be helpful, to each their own and all that.

It's virtually impossible to be protein deficient. All organic matter is composed of proteins. The only documented cases of protein deficiency that I'm aware of, were in people who were literally starving (and hence not eating much of anything). Calcium is everywhere (soya milk is full of calcium, as are beans, broccoli and nuts, for example).

It's great that you watched Meet Your Meat. I feel that it's our responsibility to make ourselves aware of where our food comes from. If I'm going to pay a company to provide me with food, I want to know where it came from and what processes were involved. Not only do I want to know, but I feel I have a responsibility to. The short video mentioned above does a good job of that. And here it is:

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32IDVdgmzKA[/video]

Very entertaining.
Think I'll have some black puddings for supper.

If you found that entertaining, you're sick.
If you're just being a patronising cock, fair enough.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

It's virtually impossible to be protein deficient. All organic matter is composed of proteins. The only documented cases of protein deficiency that I'm aware of, were in people who were literally starving (and hence not eating much of anything). Calcium is everywhere (soya milk is full of calcium, as are beans, broccoli and nuts, for example).

It's great that you watched Meet Your Meat. I feel that it's our responsibility to make ourselves aware of where our food comes from. If I'm going to pay a company to provide me with food, I want to know where it came from and what processes were involved. Not only do I want to know, but I feel I have a responsibility to. The short video mentioned above does a good job of that. And here it is:

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32IDVdgmzKA[/video]

Very entertaining.
Think I'll have some black puddings for supper.

If you found that entertaining, you're sick.
If you're just being a patronising cock, fair enough.

I'm afraid you've let your horror of what looks like an unregulated, or badly run slaughterhouse, reinforce what appears to be a support for vegetarianism. I could post pictures of farm machinery decapitating skylark chicks, land appropriated for agricultural use, leaving elephants and other wildlife at the mercy of poachers with snares that bite into their legs, resulting in an agonising death by corruption and infection.
Or, how the vast wheatfields of the prairies have resulted in birds and mammals disappearing, even show them getting minced by combines, it will also engender a feeling of revulsion. But hey, we all have to eat.
The point is, provocative videos are easy to produce in an effort to support a point of view. My own view is live and let live, if folk want to be veggies, fair enough, I don't, and pictures like the ones above will never alter that fact.