Vigilantes do they help or hinder

[blumoonrisen]

One other thing to mention is many such groups they will almost certainly at some point be hijacked by some very unsavoury elements who will seek to push an unjustified race agenda upon the whole situation.

And when that starts getting a hold then it spells huge trouble for everyone.

Why is it almost a certainty ?

well it could happen...

http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=143446&page=15

 

[Deleted member 14625]

All depends on how organised they are and if they're prepared to work with the Police. I reckon the Police could have done with the help last night in town, even if they'll never admit it. The scrotes were taking the piss and by the looks of it were always a step ahead of the Police and were almost sending them on wild aimless chases at times. They broke Ito the Arndale and then going around breaking into random shops so the Police would chase them and leave the Arndale open for free looting. The Police couldn't cope. 100 lads could had either stayed at the Arndale or followed the lads, many would ve happy to just follow Police instructions.

Plus i'll always maintain that sometimes the best lesson someone can be taught is a good hiding. There'd be plenty happy to dish them out.

It's whether it could all stay under proper control though.

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

One other thing to mention is many such groups they will almost certainly at some point be hijacked by some very unsavoury elements who will seek to push an unjustified race agenda upon the whole situation.

And when that starts getting a hold then it spells huge trouble for everyone.

Why is it almost a certainty ?

Well, we have seen mobs so far that consist of only Sikhs, only Asian who seemed Muslim (yes, I know how daft that sounds) and only whites.

If you have a group like that roaming the streets and protecting 'their white area' or 'their asian area' from outsiders who are looting then there is a good chance that they are going to be battling looters that are predominately another race.

So that's two big groups doing battle and within big groups like that it is not difficult for some who have that tendency already to start whipping up the 'them and us' rhetoric.

The Sikhs did seem to have a very balanced approach though, although I would have good money on 500 Sikhs containing several who hold certain prejudices that they are itching to let loose.

Don't get me wrong, I am totally against vigilantes but would have been very tempted if I was in town last night and I can see why plenty of people with absolutely no other agenda would have got involved. There are always people willing to take advantage of that though in certain circumstances.

In fact, as I type this I'm seeing reports of EDL clashes with police, with the EDL acting as vigilantes.

People with race agendas in all communities will be taking their opportunity to blame all of this on their 'opposition' of choice (even though it is a 'scrote' issue and not a race issue) and it isn't difficult to find some of that on the internet already.

 

[1961_vintage]

Admirable tactics on behalf of the Police leadership:

#1 Stand-back and play impotent in the face of unruly "rioting" children
#2 Hold breath and wait for public outrage to explode/vigilante groups to form
#3 Step-in, kick-shit out of a few "soft" targets (show public how tough we could be if sufficiently funded and political constraints removed)
#4 Impress on politicians the need to reverse planned Police spending cuts

Jobs for life.

 

[Challenger1978]

Admirable tactics on behalf of the Police leadership:

#1 Stand-back and play impotent in the face of unruly "rioting" children
#2 Hold breath and wait for public outrage to explode/vigilante groups to form
#3 Step-in, kick-shit out of a few "soft" targets (show public how tough we could be if sufficiently funded and political constraints removed)
#4 Impress on politicians the need to reverse planned Police spending cuts

Jobs for life.

That sounds about right to me.

 

[kronkonite]

just watches a load of scary looking fuckers claiming to be defending eltham

look like a bunch of racist edl wankers to me

 

[jamiegrimble]

All depends what they are going to do.If they play the part of the undercover police guys we have seen on pics making Citizens arrests on the street during the riots,that may help.
If they play the part of the riot squad that we witnessed beating the lads on bikes last night during the riot,we have major problems,and so do the police.
Best to leave it to those that no best.

 

[TCIB]

just watches a load of scary looking fuckers claiming to be defending eltham

look like a bunch of racist edl wankers to me

Your not wrong mate <a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8694472/London-riots-vigilantes-hurl-bottles-at-police-in-Eltham.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... ltham.html</a>

 

[goatboy]

i guess it depends what they do does'nt it. in theory if they are just there to protect their neighbourhoods then they could gather at each end of the high streets and basically just stop them from getting in. this would limit the scallies and narrow their choices and increase the polices, as long as they dont go out looking for them and get in the polices way.

one realistic problem with this i guess is that in such a heated environment that you could easily get the same opportunism from the vigilantes with thuggery/racism as the rioters have with looting. i'm all for people protecting theirs and am a little miffed over some of the comments from the police and politicians considering how useless they have been up until now.

 

[Freestyler]

The GM Police can say whatever they want and come up with whatever rubbish they want.

but they would of appreciated 500 city/united turn up and chase them out of town, just like Millwall and the rest did in London.