Villa, Why not City?

HardyBarlow

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Had a few beers, so forgive the long post...

It would seem most of the Villa support seem to have accepted Barry was off, but the fact that he's come to us seems to have stuck in the throat a little. Sure, I can understand them being unhappy about Barry saying he would only leave for a CL club, only to tip up at our place after 10 years. However, it would also seem most of them think he's taken a step backwards for the dosh. Villa, Eh????

Don't get me wrong. Villa are a solid Premier club with an half decent Manager, Chairman, support and stadium who've had a good season. They also have a fantastic history, but we are not exactly Wigan, are we? I'm sure the dosh helped, but by all accounts Villa offered him £70K and he would have got 80 bags a week at Skiverpool. I don't think £10K extra would be making that much difference in him joining us...

I actually believe Barry has seen what's going on at both clubs and thought: I'm havin' a bit of that at City. Villa had a great start to the season, but then a number of things happened. They signed Heskey, Laursen got injured, they gave up on Europe and finally crawled over the line.

Signing Heskey (and Harewood before) shows MON's style. Big lads up front with a pacey foil, good delivery into the box and good counter. Not long ball exactly, but effective British football. To me, I think show's MON has not progressed. I suspect Heskey's signing had a similar Benjani effect at the Villa.

Laursen was massive for them, he held them together defensively and scored a good few. Any kitty they do have, which I'm sure is decent, has to go on a replacement for him first. They are effectively starting from behind when it comes to summer dealings.

Fancy giving up in Europe? Villa finished better in the league than us, but we did better in Europe and gave it the respect it deserved. Villa fans are at pains to point out that they are in Europe and Barry has left to join a club that are not. What's the point of being in it if you give up on it? That showed lack of ambition from Villa and MOM basically saying that his sqaud is not up to it. I think Barry agreed.

If the season had gone on another month or two, we'd have finished above Villa. Their paper thin squad caught up with them, and when o.g. stop scoring in the 90th minute they looked on the ropes. We returned the favour and tore them a new one out our place later on in the season. They looked knackered, but our team was nearly totally different from Villa Park in August whilst they had the sameish 11 out. They needed 5 players on top of what they had, without Laursen and Barry it's now 7.

So Villa took the £12M and Barry signed up. I think that speaks volumes on the clubs respective postions. Top clubs keep thier better players and the better players want to play for top clubs. It's clear both teams need to buy, and I'm sure both will, but I fully expect our additions to be on another level from Villa's. Without the distraction of the Europa league, which Villa and Barry clearly have no regard, I think it would be foolish not to back City to surpass Villa in the Prem next seaon..................Burp.
 
When hughes and cook sold him the 'project' as they like to call it, they both lied to him and said 'gareth would you like to play with kaka and david villa?' he said 'yes', cook said 'well their both signing this week, gareth then said 'yes i wanna be a part of the city revolution'.
 
HardyBarlow said:
Had a few beers, so forgive the long post...

It would seem most of the Villa support seem to have accepted Barry was off, but the fact that he's come to us seems to have stuck in the throat a little. Sure, I can understand them being unhappy about Barry saying he would only leave for a CL club, only to tip up at our place after 10 years. However, it would also seem most of them think he's taken a step backwards for the dosh. Villa, Eh????

Don't get me wrong. Villa are a solid Premier club with an half decent Manager, Chairman, support and stadium who've had a good season. They also have a fantastic history, but we are not exactly Wigan, are we? I'm sure the dosh helped, but by all accounts Villa offered him £70K and he would have got 80 bags a week at Skiverpool. I don't think £10K extra would be making that much difference in him joining us...

I actually believe Barry has seen what's going on at both clubs and thought: I'm havin' a bit of that at City. Villa had a great start to the season, but then a number of things happened. They signed Heskey, Laursen got injured, they gave up on Europe and finally crawled over the line.

Signing Heskey (and Harewood before) shows MON's style. Big lads up front with a pacey foil, good delivery into the box and good counter. Not long ball exactly, but effective British football. To me, I think show's MON has not progressed. I suspect Heskey's signing had a similar Benjani effect at the Villa.

Laursen was massive for them, he held them together defensively and scored a good few. Any kitty they do have, which I'm sure is decent, has to go on a replacement for him first. They are effectively starting from behind when it comes to summer dealings.

Fancy giving up in Europe? Villa finished better in the league than us, but we did better in Europe and gave it the respect it deserved. Villa fans are at pains to point out that they are in Europe and Barry has left to join a club that are not. What's the point of being in it if you give up on it? That showed lack of ambition from Villa and MOM basically saying that his sqaud is not up to it. I think Barry agreed.

If the season had gone on another month or two, we'd have finished above Villa. Their paper thin squad caught up with them, and when o.g. stop scoring in the 90th minute they looked on the ropes. We returned the favour and tore them a new one out our place later on in the season. They looked knackered, but our team was nearly totally different from Villa Park in August whilst they had the sameish 11 out. They needed 5 players on top of what they had, without Laursen and Barry it's now 7.

So Villa took the £12M and Barry signed up. I think that speaks volumes on the clubs respective postions. Top clubs keep thier better players and the better players want to play for top clubs. It's clear both teams need to buy, and I'm sure both will, but I fully expect our additions to be on another level from Villa's. Without the distraction of the Europa league, which Villa and Barry clearly have no regard, I think it would be foolish not to back City to surpass Villa in the Prem next seaon..................Burp.

Good post blue, my thoughts exactly. I cant believe how biased they are being over this. Always rated Villa fans.
 
Tell The King said:
HardyBarlow said:
Had a few beers, so forgive the long post...

It would seem most of the Villa support seem to have accepted Barry was off, but the fact that he's come to us seems to have stuck in the throat a little. Sure, I can understand them being unhappy about Barry saying he would only leave for a CL club, only to tip up at our place after 10 years. However, it would also seem most of them think he's taken a step backwards for the dosh. Villa, Eh????

Don't get me wrong. Villa are a solid Premier club with an half decent Manager, Chairman, support and stadium who've had a good season. They also have a fantastic history, but we are not exactly Wigan, are we? I'm sure the dosh helped, but by all accounts Villa offered him £70K and he would have got 80 bags a week at Skiverpool. I don't think £10K extra would be making that much difference in him joining us...

I actually believe Barry has seen what's going on at both clubs and thought: I'm havin' a bit of that at City. Villa had a great start to the season, but then a number of things happened. They signed Heskey, Laursen got injured, they gave up on Europe and finally crawled over the line.

Signing Heskey (and Harewood before) shows MON's style. Big lads up front with a pacey foil, good delivery into the box and good counter. Not long ball exactly, but effective British football. To me, I think show's MON has not progressed. I suspect Heskey's signing had a similar Benjani effect at the Villa.

Laursen was massive for them, he held them together defensively and scored a good few. Any kitty they do have, which I'm sure is decent, has to go on a replacement for him first. They are effectively starting from behind when it comes to summer dealings.

Fancy giving up in Europe? Villa finished better in the league than us, but we did better in Europe and gave it the respect it deserved. Villa fans are at pains to point out that they are in Europe and Barry has left to join a club that are not. What's the point of being in it if you give up on it? That showed lack of ambition from Villa and MOM basically saying that his sqaud is not up to it. I think Barry agreed.

If the season had gone on another month or two, we'd have finished above Villa. Their paper thin squad caught up with them, and when o.g. stop scoring in the 90th minute they looked on the ropes. We returned the favour and tore them a new one out our place later on in the season. They looked knackered, but our team was nearly totally different from Villa Park in August whilst they had the sameish 11 out. They needed 5 players on top of what they had, without Laursen and Barry it's now 7.

So Villa took the £12M and Barry signed up. I think that speaks volumes on the clubs respective postions. Top clubs keep thier better players and the better players want to play for top clubs. It's clear both teams need to buy, and I'm sure both will, but I fully expect our additions to be on another level from Villa's. Without the distraction of the Europa league, which Villa and Barry clearly have no regard, I think it would be foolish not to back City to surpass Villa in the Prem next seaon..................Burp.

Good post blue, my thoughts exactly. I cant believe how biased they are being over this. Always rated Villa fans.

Not really got a problem with Villa and, to be honest, I'd be pi55ed at losing one of ours to a Villa/Everton/Spurs. So I can understand it, it's just that it seems like such a quantum leap for them when, in reality, it makes sense.
 
I've spoken to a few Villa mates tonight and it seems the general mindset is that they are not too pissed-off that he signed for US, its more that they feel betrayed after last years comments about only leaving for CL footy.
Shouts of 'Judas' and 'Traitor' have been bandied around.
I get the impression that this is not anti-City bile, but 'anti-Barry'.
 
Son Of Blue said:
I've spoken to a few Villa mates tonight and it seems the general mindset is that they are not too pissed-off that he signed for US, its more that they feel betrayed after last years comments about only leaving for CL footy.
Shouts of 'Judas' and 'Traitor' have been bandied around.
I get the impression that this is not anti-City bile, but 'anti-Barry'.

I'm sure it isn't and, to be fair, if your mates with Villa fans then you'll get the sugar coated version. The forums and phone-in's, however, seem to suggest that it's totally amazing that he's signed for us.
 
Villa fan coming in peace.

Excellent post and agree with virtually every observation as do most villa fans judging by the reaction on our 'Heroes & Villians' site.

I've had bets with local City fans that 1) City wont make top 4 next season & 2) Villa will again finish above you, i'm confident about winning the first but the second bet is a very long shot !

As for Ga£ath Ba££y, he owes us nothing, I just wish we could have got that brummie of yours - Danny Sturridge as part of the deal.

I'm having another bet with your lot that Hughes wont be your manager this time next year.

See you at Eastlands next season.
 
I think a major factor was that we want to win trophies and M.O'N fucked the UEFA Cup (a cup they easily could have gone on to win, just like City could) off to concentrate on something that was well out of their grasp anyway, even though they were in the top 4 at the time there was still AGES left in the season! Maybe GBarry didnt like that attitude of M.O'N and thought i fancy going somewhere who have real trophy ambitions!
 

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