Wage/Salary Cap

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Big G

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Was chatting about this the other day at work,
They have brought it in in Rugby to save the clubs, and possibly the game from financial ruin, and to get clubs to work and play within their means.
All too often now were seeing clubs either going, or facing administration,

Whats your views on there being a salary cap?


(Yes, I know we have megabucks owners and we should be safe while them over the road are knee deep in shit but lets have the blibkers off for this 1 please, It could be a decent debate)
 
Big G said:
Was chatting about this the other day at work,
They have brought it in in Rugby to save the clubs, and possibly the game from financial ruin, and to get clubs to work and play within their means.
All too often now were seeing clubs either going, or facing administration,

Whats your views on there being a salary cap?


(Yes, I know we have megabucks owners and we should be safe while them over the road are knee deep in shit but lets have the blibkers off for this 1 please, It could be a decent debate)
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i think it is more important to make the game more affordable, it is bullshit cheap tickets for the fulhams of this world, yet when we get a big game we charge 46 quid.

football should be available and affordable for everyone all the time, it is drifting away rapidly from me, and i guess many others.
 
Not sure, depends on what you mean, what would the cap be based on, just a cap for every single club would not help because it would not stop the poorer clubs paying outside thier capabilites. could not be just based on income because that just keeps the top 4 were they are and favours the big clubs with big stadiums. its an interesting one which would need serius thought before introducing.
 
What if zero money was offered for playing in the CL and other t.v money equally spread out in the league (inc. other 3 divisions). Teams would then lower wages anyhow and seems much fairer to me, it would put off big investors and Jack Walker types will be able to buy local clubs again.
 
Remember we dont want impose wage restrictions on the prem and have all the 'star' players hope over to europe to get their massive pay packages, that would destroy the prem which none of us want.
 
Big G said:
Was chatting about this the other day at work,
They have brought it in in Rugby to save the clubs, and possibly the game from financial ruin, and to get clubs to work and play within their means.
All too often now were seeing clubs either going, or facing administration,

Whats your views on there being a salary cap?


(Yes, I know we have megabucks owners and we should be safe while them over the road are knee deep in shit but lets have the blibkers off for this 1 please, It could be a decent debate)
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I think there should be a salary cap, Players wages nowadys are absolutely ridiculous, Portsmouth are a prime example of that, They bring in players like Muntari, Defoe, Crouch ect on big wages knowing in the long run its going to leave them in major trouble not being able to afford handing out that sort of money to players.

Alot of clubs are going to find themselves in similiar positions if they dont get there act together.
 
I'm all for it - introduced throughout Europe and it would even balance things out more.

It would HAVE to be the same cap for the whole division though, not anything to do with turnover or it would just set in stone the current inequalities. The only caps I've seen proposed in football tend to be turnover based, and if that's the case, I'd rather not have it.

I'm all for levelling the playing field, even if it means that we won't have as big a financial advantage as we have now. In the short term winning things will be exciting but look at Liverpool and Arsenal - part of the so called Big Four but still there success or otherwise is dominated by discussion about finances. Then you have Rags fans who seem to be bored of winning things half the time - I bet there are plenty of united fans who won't even watch the Carling Cup final on TV.
 
What fucks me off the most in English football is the fact that there is hardly any loyalty left. John Terry wanted to come here over here last summer, Steven Gerrard was selling his ass to Chelsea a few years back; these are the homegrown heroes of their clubs and they wanted away for more money, and these are just two examples. You look at Italian football and although it isn't the same class, the loyalty is much higher and the way players handle themselves is fantastic (please no fucking stereotypes unless you watch and follow the league). I would have captains at a certain wage (between £100-150,000 p.w maximum) and everyone else on below £100,000. It keeps captains at their clubs unless they are willing to move and take a pay cut for footballing reasons. Not where their wives can shop and how much they can shop WITH.

I'm becoming more and more disillusioned with the state of the game (as I kind of told you all that night hehe) and this would be a big step forward for football in general I think.
 
bluenova said:
I'm all for it - introduced throughout Europe and it would even balance things out more.

It would HAVE to be the same cap for the whole division though, not anything to do with turnover or it would just set in stone the current inequalities. The only caps I've seen proposed in football tend to be turnover based, and if that's the case, I'd rather not have it.
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Agreed, it looks that way in rugby, and there seems to be a general helth in competition there, and it puts alot then onto the management and coaching staff to get the right player in to do a certain job to make the team more successful.

TV revenue could be spread out more across the divisions giving the lower league clubs a much required and welcomed boost, Hell we may even see some players playing for the game and not the money.
 
I would be for a salary cap when the following conditions are in place.-:

1. We have a team of world class players signed up on contracts.

2.We are established in the Champions league.

3.We have won some silverware.

I don't think I am being unreasonable because the 'big 4' have had all of that.

Since we came into money the Gods seem to conspire against us. a) Dr Thaksin had his money frozen.
b) The sheik came along and we have Platini and Blatter trying to change the rules of Champs league.
c) we are now having salary caps proposed and could be turnover based.YCMIU.!!!1 Bahhhh
 
I sometimes think loyalty of players in the past is slightly over blown. A lot of the time players would try to engineer moves as they knew the way to make money out of the game was through signing on fees but the power lay with the clubs so if they wanted to keep a player they could. Players got tapped up al the time in the 60's and 70's - Mike Doyle more or less admits in his book that he tapped up Brian Kidd before he came to City.

I wouldn't mind a wage cap across Europe but you might need standard contracts as players would be paid all sorts of dodgy bonuses by clubs looking for a way round it. What would be best would be even distribution of TV revenues and a proportion of the takings from home gates (20%ish) going to the away side.
 
cant spell-dont care said:
Remember we dont want impose wage restrictions on the prem and have all the 'star' players hope over to europe to get their massive pay packages, that would destroy the prem which none of us want.
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I think it would do the opposite to be honest. Forget all the so called star names, football would still be exciting without them and there would still be star players emerging. If there was a salary cap across the board it would certainly make the prem a lot more exciting and also the cups etc. It doesnt benefit us as it is now, but I wouldnt be against it providing there was no advantage for the 'bigger' clubs.
 
In Rugby they get around it by Employing Players wives as "Cleaners" or in the " Admin Dept" on salaries of 25 -30k.
 
Was all for a wage / salary cap when we were skint and shit - but now fuck em! The big clubs have had their way with their own monopoly and as soon as there is a bigger boy in town they want to change the rules. Fuck em! Twattini is leading the charge - this from a little french twat who left his own shit league for the lure of the lire and Juventus. Fuck off Twattini!
 
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