We could do without FA Cup - Paul Lambert

supercrystal7 said:
I have always loved a cup run. My earliest and greatest memories about Palace came the year we made the cup final. All I remember is the street parties and the celebrations. I even thought Barnes played for us for a couple of years after, due to misunderstanding what people had said.

For me I would take a cup win over staying up. I would take Wigan's season last year every time. The runs we had in the League cup alongside the play off finals are the best matches I have ever been too.

I don't understand why midtable clubs don't try and win the cup. I mean clubs like Newcaslte, who are not going to relegate should go all out to win this trophy.

I remember being gutted you battered us 4-0 at Selhurst in a League Cup 1/4 final.

Even now I just want to see us win anything, the joy at your club getting to a final, and even better winning it in a one-off game, is amazing.

Paul Lambert is a ****.
 
Skashion said:
Personally I look forward to the FA Cup every season and I wouldn't like to go without it. I still hold it in high esteem and the fact that you regularly have the best teams in the country facing each other in the final (something which happens far less frequently in the League Cup - although hopefully this year's an exception) shows the esteem it's still held in.
What do you mean? There's only 1 team from the top 6 left in the league cup!
 
Bilboblue said:
supercrystal7 said:
I have always loved a cup run. My earliest and greatest memories about Palace came the year we made the cup final. All I remember is the street parties and the celebrations. I even thought Barnes played for us for a couple of years after, due to misunderstanding what people had said.

For me I would take a cup win over staying up. I would take Wigan's season last year every time. The runs we had in the League cup alongside the play off finals are the best matches I have ever been too.

I don't understand why midtable clubs don't try and win the cup. I mean clubs like Newcaslte, who are not going to relegate should go all out to win this trophy.

I remember being gutted you battered us 4-0 at Selhurst in a League Cup 1/4 final.

Even now I just want to see us win anything, the joy at your club getting to a final, and even better winning it in a one-off game, is amazing.

Paul Lambert is a ****.
I completely agree about Lambert.

I would love for Palace to one day win the League Cup.

After we beat you 4-0 the semi against Liverpool was the first proper away game I ever went to.

When I think about the great memories it actually makes me angry the way some people dismiss the cups.
 
If the F.A. Cup winners received the 4th Champions league place there would be a sudden change in Paul it's not the money Lambert's thinking.
 
Skashion said:
Aston Villa boss Paul Lambert says clubs could do without FA Cup

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The FA Cup was first held in 1871-72 and has been contested every year since, apart from during the First and Second World Wars

Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert believes the majority of top-flight clubs would rather not have the distraction of the FA Cup.

Speaking before Saturday's third-round game with Sheffield United, Lambert was asked whether the FA Cup was something Premier League clubs could do without.

"I think if you asked the majority of them, if they were being honest, they probably would do," he told BBC WM.
The FA Cup

"Not just because of the money but survival in the league is vital."

The Scot added: "It is realistic. That is the nature of it. If anyone says any differently then I am not so sure they will be telling the truth because the Premier League is the most vital thing that anyone wants to get into and we are no different."

Lambert's side are six points above the Premier League relegation zone and it is survival - rather than the visit of the League One Blades - that is his priority.

"Cup competitions, if you can get through, then absolutely I want to get through. I don't want to not get through but your main one is the league," he said.

"We don't have a massive squad and points are really important. If you are honest enough people will say the same."

Aston Villa have won the FA Cup on seven occasions but have not lifted the trophy since 1957 and last reached the final in 2000.

Last season, Wigan became the first team to win the FA Cup but also be relegated from the top tier in the same season.
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Personally I look forward to the FA Cup every season and I wouldn't like to go without it. I still hold it in high esteem and the fact that you regularly have the best teams in the country facing each other in the final (something which happens far less frequently in the League Cup - although hopefully this year's an exception) shows the esteem it's still held in. It's a national event - and it is perfectly legitimate to call it that because it's one of the few OFCOM protected events in football along with the World Cup and the European Championship. Usually a national dignitary there like a royal or the Prime Minister as well. I look forward to knowing we could be playing anyone, which isn't the same as the League Cup. I also know that it's hugely important for non-league clubs. I can remembering following Accrington Stanley when they were non-league and the elation of getting through to the FA Cup Proper. A good FA Cup run can also be huge financially for small clubs. I'm a lover of the FA Cup and probably always will be, so I think Lambert's talking out his arse. If one of the cup competitions should go, it should be the League Cup.

Do you agree with Lambert or talking bollocks?

As a football manager I suspect he thinks it unlikely they will win it or even get to the semi and the biggest risk is injuries to his squad

As a villa fan I would be gutted
 
This is not an original thought, but I find it intuitively pleasing and topical…if the UEFA Champions League Qualifying Round spot were to be awarded to the FA Cup winner rather than the fourth place PL spot, would not all glory be returned to the Cup? There wouldn't be a team in the entire FA that wouldn't bust balls in the tournament to win, with every round oozing importance as the perm title becomes more distant for most. The only drawback I see would be UEFA coefficient jeopardy, which could eventually cost the Premier League the fourth spot, I suppose. And it would be a lot tougher for minnows, for sure, but if one got through the reward would be club altering.
 
supercrystal7 said:
I have always loved a cup run. My earliest and greatest memories about Palace came the year we made the cup final. All I remember is the street parties and the celebrations. I even thought Barnes played for us for a couple of years after, due to misunderstanding what people had said.

For me I would take a cup win over staying up. I would take Wigan's season last year every time. The runs we had in the League cup alongside the play off finals are the best matches I have ever been too.

I don't understand why midtable clubs don't try and win the cup. I mean clubs like Newcaslte, who are not going to relegate should go all out to win this trophy.

Spot on about Wigan. Not to mention the joy of promotion, which is as close as many fans get to the feeling of winning a trophy. Certainly for me until we won the FA Cup, our day out at Wembley in 99 was the clear highlight of my City supporting career!
 
Great message to send out to your players!

"I don't think you are good enough to finish a minimum 17th and go on a cup run"

Bullshit attitude, hope he loses his job which he will.
 
Carver said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
quiet_riot said:
This. How many other countries have 2 domestic cup competitions?
Of the top of my head
France, Scotland, NI and Portugal

From UEFA region:
Denmark, Finland, Greece, Ireland, Wales also.
we have 3 when you include the cross border cup, bit shit when you lose all 3 finals in one season.
 
dctid said:
As a football manager I suspect he thinks it unlikely they will win it or even get to the semi and the biggest risk is injuries to his squad

As a villa fan I would be gutted

I know a couple and they most certainly are. Having said that, they already were.
 
i kne albert davy said:
If the F.A. Cup winners received the 4th Champions league place there would be a sudden change in Paul it's not the money Lambert's thinking.

This is the answer; but the suits at the Premier League would never give up a Chumps League slot to the FA. Shame,
 
trotsky said:
i kne albert davy said:
If the F.A. Cup winners received the 4th Champions league place there would be a sudden change in Paul it's not the money Lambert's thinking.

This is the answer; but the suits at the Premier League would never give up a Chumps League slot to the FA. Shame,

Its not going to bother Villa one bit as FFP ensures that they dont have a cat in hell's chance of top 4 ...forever maybe
 
solley attwell said:
trotsky said:
i kne albert davy said:
If the F.A. Cup winners received the 4th Champions league place there would be a sudden change in Paul it's not the money Lambert's thinking.

This is the answer; but the suits at the Premier League would never give up a Chumps League slot to the FA. Shame,

Its not going to bother Villa one bit as FFP ensures that they dont have a cat in hell's chance of top 4 ...forever maybe


Perhaps they'll remember that they voted for it when it all sinks in! (They did, didn't they?)
 
I see the usual line of "we don't have a big enough squad" has been trotted out

Whose fault is that then, he been the manager for the last two seasons, he knows the rules in regards squad size and make up

Cut your cloth and search for the players.
 
Skashion said:
Aston Villa boss Paul Lambert says clubs could do without FA Cup

_72048623_wiganfacup_getty.jpg

The FA Cup was first held in 1871-72 and has been contested every year since, apart from during the First and Second World Wars

Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert believes the majority of top-flight clubs would rather not have the distraction of the FA Cup.

Speaking before Saturday's third-round game with Sheffield United, Lambert was asked whether the FA Cup was something Premier League clubs could do without.

"I think if you asked the majority of them, if they were being honest, they probably would do," he told BBC WM.
The FA Cup

"Not just because of the money but survival in the league is vital."

The Scot added: "It is realistic. That is the nature of it. If anyone says any differently then I am not so sure they will be telling the truth because the Premier League is the most vital thing that anyone wants to get into and we are no different."

Lambert's side are six points above the Premier League relegation zone and it is survival - rather than the visit of the League One Blades - that is his priority.

"Cup competitions, if you can get through, then absolutely I want to get through. I don't want to not get through but your main one is the league," he said.

"We don't have a massive squad and points are really important. If you are honest enough people will say the same."

Aston Villa have won the FA Cup on seven occasions but have not lifted the trophy since 1957 and last reached the final in 2000.

Last season, Wigan became the first team to win the FA Cup but also be relegated from the top tier in the same season.
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Personally I look forward to the FA Cup every season and I wouldn't like to go without it. I still hold it in high esteem and the fact that you regularly have the best teams in the country facing each other in the final (something which happens far less frequently in the League Cup - although hopefully this year's an exception) shows the esteem it's still held in. It's a national event - and it is perfectly legitimate to call it that because it's one of the few OFCOM protected events in football along with the World Cup and the European Championship. Usually a national dignitary there like a royal or the Prime Minister as well. I look forward to knowing we could be playing anyone, which isn't the same as the League Cup. I also know that it's hugely important for non-league clubs. I can remembering following Accrington Stanley when they were non-league and the elation of getting through to the FA Cup Proper. A good FA Cup run can also be huge financially for small clubs. I'm a lover of the FA Cup and probably always will be, so I think Lambert's talking out his arse. If one of the cup competitions should go, it should be the League Cup.

Do you agree with Lambert or talking bollocks?

Villa manager with no chance of winning trophy in shocker comment...

Villa fans deserve a man with backbone..
 
Kinkys Left Foot said:
Perhaps they'll remember that they voted for it when it all sinks in! (They did, didn't they?)
Well no-one voted for the UEFA rules, that's UEFA's business but no they didn't vote for the Premier League rules (Southampton, Swansea, us, Fulham, West Brom and Aston Villa opposed, Reading abstained).
 

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