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Leading European clubs including Italian giants Internazionale are pressing for Uefa to adopt the sanctions to ensure that the new rules, designed to ensure clubs live within their means, are not abused by clubs with massive benefactor funding.



Uefa president Michel Platini has said the rules are necessary to stop “financial doping” by the richest clubs driving their competitors into financial trouble as they strain to compete.


Manchester City, backed by Abu Dhabi’s petro-dollar wealth, and Roman Abramovich’s Chelsea are among clubs that the established European elite fear will be able to evade the rules, which effectively tie transfer fees and player wages to turnover.


The rules came into effect at the start of this season but until now the sanctions for clubs breaching the regulations have not been clear, with Uefa saying only that serious breaches could lead to clubs being thrown out of the Champions League or Europa League.


Following discussions at the European Club Association general assembly in Genevea this week however clubs have agreed to ask Uefa to announce a graded system of sanctions.



These would include financial penalties as well as preventing clubs in serious breach from signing any new players, effectively forcing them to comply with financial constraints laid down by Uefa.


Internazionale chief executive Ernesto Paolillo chaired a working group of leading clubs including Arsenal and Real Madrid this week, and said the clubs are keen to know what the penalties will be.

“We are all fully behind the financial fair play rules because we need to make some changes in European football,” he said. “European clubs were in deficit by more than €1bn last season, so we need action.

“But we need to see the sanctions now because the rules have started, so that the clubs know the rules. We think that having a transfer ban, and to have prize money from Uefa withheld, are appropriate penalties for breaking financial rules.”

Paulillo and directors of established European elite clubs are keen that City in particular are forced to comply with the rules, which limit benefactor funding to €45m over the next three seasons.

All other income must be “legitimate” revenue, but there are already complaints over City’s £400m sponsorship and naming rights deal with Etihad, the Abu Dhabi national airline controlled by the same family as City.

City believe that the deal will pass the FFP test because it includes money for youth and community development aspects, which are exempt from the rules.
 
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one good thing out this BS is, no one will be able to buy our players :)
 
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Longsight-memories said:
Leading European clubs including Italian giants Internazionale are pressing for Uefa to adopt the sanctions to ensure that the new rules, designed to ensure clubs live within their means, are not abused by clubs with massive benefactor funding.



Uefa president Michel Platini has said the rules are necessary to stop “financial doping” by the richest clubs driving their competitors into financial trouble as they strain to compete.


Manchester City, backed by Abu Dhabi’s petro-dollar wealth, and Roman Abramovich’s Chelsea are among clubs that the established European elite fear will be able to evade the rules, which effectively tie transfer fees and player wages to turnover.


The rules came into effect at the start of this season but until now the sanctions for clubs breaching the regulations have not been clear, with Uefa saying only that serious breaches could lead to clubs being thrown out of the Champions League or Europa League.


Following discussions at the European Club Association general assembly in Genevea this week however clubs have agreed to ask Uefa to announce a graded system of sanctions.



These would include financial penalties as well as preventing clubs in serious breach from signing any new players, effectively forcing them to comply with financial constraints laid down by Uefa.


Internazionale chief executive Ernesto Paolillo chaired a working group of leading clubs including Arsenal and Real Madrid this week, and said the clubs are keen to know what the penalties will be.

“We are all fully behind the financial fair play rules because we need to make some changes in European football,” he said. “European clubs were in deficit by more than €1bn last season, so we need action.

“But we need to see the sanctions now because the rules have started, so that the clubs know the rules. We think that having a transfer ban, and to have prize money from Uefa withheld, are appropriate penalties for breaking financial rules.”

Paulillo and directors of established European elite clubs are keen that City in particular are forced to comply with the rules, which limit benefactor funding to €45m over the next three seasons.

All other income must be “legitimate” revenue, but there are already complaints over City’s £400m sponsorship and naming rights deal with Etihad, the Abu Dhabi national airline controlled by the same family as City.

City believe that the deal will pass the FFP test because it includes money for youth and community development aspects, which are exempt from the rules.

And do any of these morons actually know what the breakdown of our supposed £400M was ??
What did we achieve for the Shirt Sponsorship deal ?
What did we achieve for the naming rights ?
What did we achieve for the Etihad Campus Deal ??
Thought not !
No fucker knows,least of all them !
 
will never work.. Another reason WE MUST BACK COOK

So they are changing the FFP to suit unbelievable
 
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oakiecokie said:
Longsight-memories said:
Leading European clubs including Italian giants Internazionale are pressing for Uefa to adopt the sanctions to ensure that the new rules, designed to ensure clubs live within their means, are not abused by clubs with massive benefactor funding.



Uefa president Michel Platini has said the rules are necessary to stop “financial doping” by the richest clubs driving their competitors into financial trouble as they strain to compete.


Manchester City, backed by Abu Dhabi’s petro-dollar wealth, and Roman Abramovich’s Chelsea are among clubs that the established European elite fear will be able to evade the rules, which effectively tie transfer fees and player wages to turnover.


The rules came into effect at the start of this season but until now the sanctions for clubs breaching the regulations have not been clear, with Uefa saying only that serious breaches could lead to clubs being thrown out of the Champions League or Europa League.


Following discussions at the European Club Association general assembly in Genevea this week however clubs have agreed to ask Uefa to announce a graded system of sanctions.



These would include financial penalties as well as preventing clubs in serious breach from signing any new players, effectively forcing them to comply with financial constraints laid down by Uefa.


Internazionale chief executive Ernesto Paolillo chaired a working group of leading clubs including Arsenal and Real Madrid this week, and said the clubs are keen to know what the penalties will be.

“We are all fully behind the financial fair play rules because we need to make some changes in European football,” he said. “European clubs were in deficit by more than €1bn last season, so we need action.

“But we need to see the sanctions now because the rules have started, so that the clubs know the rules. We think that having a transfer ban, and to have prize money from Uefa withheld, are appropriate penalties for breaking financial rules.”

Paulillo and directors of established European elite clubs are keen that City in particular are forced to comply with the rules, which limit benefactor funding to €45m over the next three seasons.

All other income must be “legitimate” revenue, but there are already complaints over City’s £400m sponsorship and naming rights deal with Etihad, the Abu Dhabi national airline controlled by the same family as City.

City believe that the deal will pass the FFP test because it includes money for youth and community development aspects, which are exempt from the rules.

And do any of these morons actually know what the breakdown of our supposed £400M was ??
What did we achieve for the Shirt Sponsorship deal ?
What did we achieve for the naming rights ?
What did we achieve for the Etihad Campus Deal ??
Thought not !
No fucker knows,least of all them !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...r-Warrior-kit-deal-rewrites-record-books.html

warrior giving us £25m and standard chartered giving us £20m, is this right??
 
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Longsight-memories said:
oakiecokie said:
Longsight-memories said:
Leading European clubs including Italian giants Internazionale are pressing for Uefa to adopt the sanctions to ensure that the new rules, designed to ensure clubs live within their means, are not abused by clubs with massive benefactor funding.



Uefa president Michel Platini has said the rules are necessary to stop “financial doping” by the richest clubs driving their competitors into financial trouble as they strain to compete.


Manchester City, backed by Abu Dhabi’s petro-dollar wealth, and Roman Abramovich’s Chelsea are among clubs that the established European elite fear will be able to evade the rules, which effectively tie transfer fees and player wages to turnover.


The rules came into effect at the start of this season but until now the sanctions for clubs breaching the regulations have not been clear, with Uefa saying only that serious breaches could lead to clubs being thrown out of the Champions League or Europa League.


Following discussions at the European Club Association general assembly in Genevea this week however clubs have agreed to ask Uefa to announce a graded system of sanctions.



These would include financial penalties as well as preventing clubs in serious breach from signing any new players, effectively forcing them to comply with financial constraints laid down by Uefa.


Internazionale chief executive Ernesto Paolillo chaired a working group of leading clubs including Arsenal and Real Madrid this week, and said the clubs are keen to know what the penalties will be.

“We are all fully behind the financial fair play rules because we need to make some changes in European football,” he said. “European clubs were in deficit by more than €1bn last season, so we need action.

“But we need to see the sanctions now because the rules have started, so that the clubs know the rules. We think that having a transfer ban, and to have prize money from Uefa withheld, are appropriate penalties for breaking financial rules.”

Paulillo and directors of established European elite clubs are keen that City in particular are forced to comply with the rules, which limit benefactor funding to €45m over the next three seasons.

All other income must be “legitimate” revenue, but there are already complaints over City’s £400m sponsorship and naming rights deal with Etihad, the Abu Dhabi national airline controlled by the same family as City.

City believe that the deal will pass the FFP test because it includes money for youth and community development aspects, which are exempt from the rules.

And do any of these morons actually know what the breakdown of our supposed £400M was ??
What did we achieve for the Shirt Sponsorship deal ?
What did we achieve for the naming rights ?
What did we achieve for the Etihad Campus Deal ??
Thought not !
No fucker knows,least of all them !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...r-Warrior-kit-deal-rewrites-record-books.html

warrior giving us £25m and standard chartered giving us £20m, is this right??

Nuff said then mate !!!
 
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If people really wanted financial fair play every last penny of every team's revenue would be equally split around every team in every league. Tickets, sponsors, pie sales, the lot. Until that time, benefactors are a tiny, tiny issue.
 
Re: will never work.. Another reason WE MUST BACK COOK

Inter will never push for these rules to be implemented to their full force and I doubt Madrid will either. Morratti has pumped in more than 700mil out of his own pocket from what I have read over the last decade as with all Italian clubs they all seem to work on losses they will be the first of the big leagues to be affected by these rules. Madrid are the same and now with the rest of la Liga seeming to be getti g their act together and getting murmurings about equal distribution of television money the way the premiership have it they could be only a few years away from taking a big hit on their income. Not sure when the current tv deal runs out but we have already saw a player led strike in Spain over money for players and it seems the only way for the smaller clubs to safeguard themselves against this is future is a bigger share in tv revenue for extra income. I read somewhere they were looking for indications as to the likeliness of an actual ban being implemented and as I gathered most were angling towards prize money or at least some of it being withheld if the club don't meet ffp. With the Malaga, psg situation I would think their will be more leeway given with these rules as in all likeliness uefa could be left in a situation where half a dozen teams face expulsion from the champions league meaning moving up "lesser teams" to fill the void which in turn will mean having to fill the void those teams leave in the already devalued Europa league weakening uefa's both competitions. How long will uefa be able to hold on to these rules when there competitions are missing some of europes biggest teams and sponsorship renewals come up? Sponsors pay the big money to see the big teams and players play if uefa stop that from happening sponsorship money will soon drop
 
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'it's uefa's competition so they can impose whatever sanctions

which of course the EU courts will respect ENTIRELY when considering the impact upon legally run, tax-paying, wealth-generating multi-million pound businesses....

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Sion fight Europa League expulsion at Swiss court
However, the club believe that UEFA must comply with Swiss civil law as the organisation is based in the country, and because the country's courts ruled that the players were eligible to play.

"Players and the club are now bringing legal actions against UEFA at Swiss civil court," a club spokesperson told insideworldfootball.

"[The] civil court already gave the players the right to play; that was not respected by the UEFA.

"This is a serious violation of Swiss laws and may result penal proceedings.
 
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Happy enough for us to have a rich owner when they trousered £24m for Balotelli though eh?
 
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I'll be absolutely furious if our club get rid of Cooke. Any error has occured somehow. The club must apologise and confirm that they support him 100% and move on.

Let's make sure everyone is in now doubt on Saturday!
 
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Inter are about half a billion in the red. The reason they want a detailed list of sanctions is probably so that it is revealed that earlier sanctions are lesser (transfer embargoes etc) before being kicked out of the CL, so that they know what breathing space they can expect basically. It shouldn't be interpreted as Inter calling for tougher sanctions or enforcement, that's misleading and wrong.

Other news coming out recently has indicated that being thrown out of the CL will indeed be the last resort, which is very good news as with the squad we have now, transfer embargoes mean very little to us for the foreseeable future and our club hierarchy are likely to be unofficially imposing their own, of sorts, anyway.
 
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Maybe we should call on UEFA to sanction all those clubs running up huge amounts of debt, by preventing them from entering the CL & EL in future ... we have a professionally run club, our owner takes a personal hit on all money he gives to the club, keeps debt to a minimum, yet these so called big clubs complaining about how we keep our finances in order are millions in debt and continue to add to these debts in the transfer market

So I say ... if you are more than 25% of your annual turnover figure in debt you cannot continue spending in the transfer market ... Inter, Real, Barca totally fucked ... everyone is so worried about 'losses' but if the companies owner is willing to continue pumping in money to cover those losses, surely it is illegal to prevent an investment in your own business!!! Let's see what the European Courts rule on that one
 
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db79ctid said:
Inter will never push for these rules to be implemented to their full force and I doubt Madrid will either. Morratti has pumped in more than 700mil out of his own pocket from what I have read over the last decade as with all Italian clubs they all seem to work on losses they will be the first of the big leagues to be affected by these rules. Madrid are the same and now with the rest of la Liga seeming to be getti g their act together and getting murmurings about equal distribution of television money the way the premiership have it they could be only a few years away from taking a big hit on their income. Not sure when the current tv deal runs out but we have already saw a player led strike in Spain over money for players and it seems the only way for the smaller clubs to safeguard themselves against this is future is a bigger share in tv revenue for extra income. I read somewhere they were looking for indications as to the likeliness of an actual ban being implemented and as I gathered most were angling towards prize money or at least some of it being withheld if the club don't meet ffp. With the Malaga, psg situation I would think their will be more leeway given with these rules as in all likeliness uefa could be left in a situation where half a dozen teams face expulsion from the champions league meaning moving up "lesser teams" to fill the void which in turn will mean having to fill the void those teams leave in the already devalued Europa league weakening uefa's both competitions. How long will uefa be able to hold on to these rules when there competitions are missing some of europes biggest teams and sponsorship renewals come up? Sponsors pay the big money to see the big teams and players play if uefa stop that from happening sponsorship money will soon drop

I think the biggest potential threat to Barca and Real's income could be a pub landlord in Portsmouth called Karen Muphy.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12355022" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12355022</a>

If that advice gets accepted, as it almost certainly will, the impact on the two Spanish giants will be enormous, especially as they are disproportionately reliant on their domestic TV income due to the way those deals are structured.
 
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
db79ctid said:
Inter will never push for these rules to be implemented to their full force and I doubt Madrid will either. Morratti has pumped in more than 700mil out of his own pocket from what I have read over the last decade as with all Italian clubs they all seem to work on losses they will be the first of the big leagues to be affected by these rules. Madrid are the same and now with the rest of la Liga seeming to be getti g their act together and getting murmurings about equal distribution of television money the way the premiership have it they could be only a few years away from taking a big hit on their income. Not sure when the current tv deal runs out but we have already saw a player led strike in Spain over money for players and it seems the only way for the smaller clubs to safeguard themselves against this is future is a bigger share in tv revenue for extra income. I read somewhere they were looking for indications as to the likeliness of an actual ban being implemented and as I gathered most were angling towards prize money or at least some of it being withheld if the club don't meet ffp. With the Malaga, psg situation I would think their will be more leeway given with these rules as in all likeliness uefa could be left in a situation where half a dozen teams face expulsion from the champions league meaning moving up "lesser teams" to fill the void which in turn will mean having to fill the void those teams leave in the already devalued Europa league weakening uefa's both competitions. How long will uefa be able to hold on to these rules when there competitions are missing some of europes biggest teams and sponsorship renewals come up? Sponsors pay the big money to see the big teams and players play if uefa stop that from happening sponsorship money will soon drop

I think the biggest potential threat to Barca and Real's income could be a pub landlord in Portsmouth called Karen Muphy.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12355022" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12355022</a>

If that advice gets accepted, as it almost certainly will, the impact on the two Spanish giants will be enormous, especially as they are disproportionately reliant on their domestic TV income due to the way those deals are structured.

Landlady then even? :P
 
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tara FFP..European Union competition law arose out of the desire to ensure that the efforts of government could not be distorted by corporations abusing their market power. Hence under the treaties are provisions to ensure that free competition prevails, rather than cartels and monopolies sharing out markets and fixing prices
 
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southern muppet said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
db79ctid said:
Inter will never push for these rules to be implemented to their full force and I doubt Madrid will either. Morratti has pumped in more than 700mil out of his own pocket from what I have read over the last decade as with all Italian clubs they all seem to work on losses they will be the first of the big leagues to be affected by these rules. Madrid are the same and now with the rest of la Liga seeming to be getti g their act together and getting murmurings about equal distribution of television money the way the premiership have it they could be only a few years away from taking a big hit on their income. Not sure when the current tv deal runs out but we have already saw a player led strike in Spain over money for players and it seems the only way for the smaller clubs to safeguard themselves against this is future is a bigger share in tv revenue for extra income. I read somewhere they were looking for indications as to the likeliness of an actual ban being implemented and as I gathered most were angling towards prize money or at least some of it being withheld if the club don't meet ffp. With the Malaga, psg situation I would think their will be more leeway given with these rules as in all likeliness uefa could be left in a situation where half a dozen teams face expulsion from the champions league meaning moving up "lesser teams" to fill the void which in turn will mean having to fill the void those teams leave in the already devalued Europa league weakening uefa's both competitions. How long will uefa be able to hold on to these rules when there competitions are missing some of europes biggest teams and sponsorship renewals come up? Sponsors pay the big money to see the big teams and players play if uefa stop that from happening sponsorship money will soon drop

I think the biggest potential threat to Barca and Real's income could be a pub landlord in Portsmouth called Karen Muphy.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12355022" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12355022</a>

If that advice gets accepted, as it almost certainly will, the impact on the two Spanish giants will be enormous, especially as they are disproportionately reliant on their domestic TV income due to the way those deals are structured.

Landlady then even? :P

haha. Yes I guess so. Although landlady sounds a bit outdated for some reason (can't explain why landlord doesn't)

I wouldn't say chairwoman or manageress which I suppose explains my 'slip' there.

Although I would say waitress and air-stewardess.

Interesting you've got me thinking now....
 

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