Well done boss

[bluesimon]

Spot on SWP , it's about the underachievement that grates.

Inherit the best squad in the League and spend a further £200 million then in years 2 and 3 we start going backwards. If the Sheikh were to say he's done his bit and pulls out, ( not that I think he would) everyone would be horrified at what a lost opportunity the last two years have been.

His arrogance on some of his decisions have been staggering. We have to make hay with the best owner and opportunity we will never ever have again. Top four should have been a formality. Khaldoon looked livid at the end.

Lets get some facts here. Pellers spent £300m during his tenure. When we won the premiership in 2013/14, his only signing to start consistently was Fernandinho (played in 33 premiership games). MDM, Jovetic & Negredo were on permanent bench warming duty and Navas was approx half and half. So very clearly, we won the 2013/14 premiership mainly on the back of the Mancini team in terms of appearances & goals scored.
This season, we have been bitch slapped by 3 or 4 goals on 5 occasions (have to go back 8+ years to see that again), suffered 5 home defeats, have not managed a single win against a top 8 side (except against Southampton in november when they were 10th) and in terms of points tally for this season, (currently 65, might get 66 or 68), it could be worse than the 2009/10 season when we got 67.

Based on these FACTS, can anyone honestly say that Pellers has been nothing short of a comprehensive failure, given the money he has spent and the current status. What all fans really care about at so called 'bigger clubs' is the Premiership - fighting for top spot and giving our 'bigger rivals' a real seeing to. Some might suggest that the progression in the Champions League is a good enough return but £700+++ spent and to go out like a bunch of spineless cowards and only get 1 shot on target over 180 minutes against RM is not progression.

Please Pellers, go to another Premiership side. At least we will be guaranteed 6 points for next season.

 

[chaddblue]

Lets get some facts here. Pellers spent £300m during his tenure. When we won the premiership in 2013/14, his only signing to start consistently was Fernandinho (played in 33 premiership games). MDM, Jovetic & Negredo were on permanent bench warming duty and Navas was approx half and half. So very clearly, we won the 2013/14 premiership mainly on the back of the Mancini team in terms of appearances & goals scored.
This season, we have been bitch slapped by 3 or 4 goals on 5 occasions (have to go back 8+ years to see that again), suffered 5 home defeats, have not managed a single win against a top 8 side (except against Southampton in november when they were 10th) and in terms of points tally for this season, (currently 65, might get 66 or 68), it could be worse than the 2009/10 season when we got 67.

Based on these FACTS, can anyone honestly say that Pellers has been nothing short of a comprehensive failure, given the money he has spent and the current status. What all fans really care about at so called 'bigger clubs' is the Premiership - fighting for top spot and giving our 'bigger rivals' a real seeing to. Some might suggest that the progression in the Champions League is a good enough return but £700+++ spent and to go out like a bunch of spineless cowards and only get 1 shot on target over 180 minutes against RM is not progression.

Please Pellers, go to another Premiership side. At least we will be guaranteed 6 points for next season.

Great post. The facts speak for themselves and not even the biggest Pellegrini apologist can argue with them

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

I think he's already lined up for Everton mate

Seriously?

 

[chaddblue]

Seriously?

If true I'm putting £20 on Everton to be relegated next season

 

[The blue phantom]

You replied to my post. In a debate that started with a prize cock stating that Hughes and Pearce would have done better with the resources available. They wouldn't, because they're inferior managers.

Listen stick your abuse up your fuckin arse, is that all you do when someone has a dif of opinion than you.

I'll say it a again for you, yes Hughes would of got more than 60 odd points with this squad.

 

[Shaelumstash]

I was one of the couple of thousand that stayed to applaud him. I think he's done a truly diabolical job, but he's done his best so felt he deserved some thanks.

I got my only ever Bluemoon ban on the FA Cup final day in 2013 when it was announced Mancini was leaving and Pellegrini was coming in. I was absolutely furious, rather emotional and I went too far and said some things I shouldn't have.

The reason I was so wound up was because I'd waited my whole life for City to be a good football team. We'd had good players in the past but we'd always been the nice guys, the plucky losers.

That team we had from 2010-2013 was full of class footballers. But it also had a relentless drive to win. It was full of big personalities, physically imposing players, winners. The team reflected the manager's relentless drive for perfection. As Grahame Souness said "If you want a football match, they'll out-football you, if you want a fight, they'll out-fight you."

When it was announced we were sacking Mancini I thought it was a colossal mistake. We'd come off the back of 2 brilliant seasons, and one pretty average one. The squad needed refreshing, but finishing second was no disgrace. Ridiculous clubs like Madrid and Chelsea sack managers for finishing second. And then we were added to the list.

The team's decline over the last 3 years has been alarming. I spotted signs early on and expressed them on here. Good league results papered over the cracks and I was pretty much unanimously shouted down by the majority of the board, who seemingly couldn't see any areas of concern.

The decline in the last two years has been stark. The majority view is now that he's a dreadful manager, and the two or three posters who still defend him are now on the recieving end of the shooting down. The longer he has gone on, the more his inadequacies have been highlighted.

We still have some class footballers, but the drive, the determination to win has gone. On our day we can out-football an average side, but we'll get beaten by a decent one. And we couldn't out-fight a bowl of jelly. The personality of the team reflects the personality of the manager. Dour, insipid, disinterested, nice. The plucky loser once again.

30 odd years of bad habits and losing mentality was completely reversed between 2009 and 2012. It's taken Pellegrini 3 years to completely un do that work.

Pellegrini was going to bring harmomy to the dressing room they said. Make it a happy camp. The club were taking a "holistic" approach. Well to all those who celebrated Mancini's sacking and Pellegrini's arrival, I'll say exactly the same as I said that day in 2013; be careful what you wish for.

Perhaps even I didn't think the decline would be as stark as it has been. But I knew we had a winner in charge with Mancini. Someone who would accept nothing but the highest standards. Someone that always strived for perfection, and inspired those working for him to do the same. He might not say hello to the tea lady, but he'd never accept a defeat lying down. We were lucky to have him in charge.

We sacked our Fergurson and appointed our Moyes, and we stuck with him for 3 years. I've apologised for my ouburst that day in 2013 to @Prestwich_Blue and I truly mean it. But in my defence, the reason I was so wound up and carried away that day was because I want was is best for City. We had a winner in charge, who instilled a winning mentality.

I thought the club made a momumental error that day in 2013, and the last two years have cemented that belief more than I could possibly have imagined.

Plenty of people think Mancini had to go, for various reasons. I accept that. But if any positive legacy comes from these last 3 years I hope it's that the club never again make the mistake of hiring a nice guy who takes defeat lying down.

I love it that the club want to play beautiful football, but this is England. Beautiful football is not just passing to feet. It's giving your all, refusing to accept defeat, being brave, defending heroically, winning the midfield battle, knowing you can beat anyone on any given day if you work harder and want to win more.

We must only appoint winners from now on, and we must instill a winning mentality right throughout the club.

The Pellegrini years are almost over now and I hope the club learn from their mistake and never make it again.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

You replied to my post. In a debate that started with a prize cock stating that Hughes and Pearce would have done better with the resources available. They wouldn't, because they're inferior managers.

I don't wish to prolong the agony, but if you go back to p.151, you'll see that I actually replied to 'Alrambomcfc' and you then replied to me.......

 

[richards30]

Seriously?

Have heard a couple of rumblings and obviously Martinez has lost the fans and seemingly the players. Add in to the equation some investment for the new guy then Manuel could be an option to go there

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Lets get some facts here. Pellers spent £300m during his tenure. When we won the premiership in 2013/14, his only signing to start consistently was Fernandinho (played in 33 premiership games). MDM, Jovetic & Negredo were on permanent bench warming duty and Navas was approx half and half. So very clearly, we won the 2013/14 premiership mainly on the back of the Mancini team in terms of appearances & goals scored.
This season, we have been bitch slapped by 3 or 4 goals on 5 occasions (have to go back 8+ years to see that again), suffered 5 home defeats, have not managed a single win against a top 8 side (except against Southampton in november when they were 10th) and in terms of points tally for this season, (currently 65, might get 66 or 68), it could be worse than the 2009/10 season when we got 67.

Based on these FACTS, can anyone honestly say that Pellers has been nothing short of a comprehensive failure, given the money he has spent and the current status. What all fans really care about at so called 'bigger clubs' is the Premiership - fighting for top spot and giving our 'bigger rivals' a real seeing to. Some might suggest that the progression in the Champions League is a good enough return but £700+++ spent and to go out like a bunch of spineless cowards and only get 1 shot on target over 180 minutes against RM is not progression.

Please Pellers, go to another Premiership side. At least we will be guaranteed 6 points for next season.

6 points out of 42 against the other top 7.....

3 points from 9 away from home against the bottom 3 sides with one offside goal.

Today was one of our better performances. It's the accumulation of the above that's pissed everyone off.

 

[kismet]

I was one of the couple of thousand that stayed to applaud him. I think he's done a truly diabolical job, but he's done his best so felt he deserved some thanks.

I got my only ever Bluemoon ban on the FA Cup final day in 2013 when it was announced Mancini was leaving and Pellegrini was coming in. I was absolutely furious, rather emotional and I went too far and said some things I shouldn't have.

The reason I was so wound up was because I'd waited my whole life for City to be a good football team. We'd had good players in the past but we'd always been the nice guys, the plucky losers.

That team we had from 2010-2013 was full of class footballers. But it also had a relentless drive to win. It was full of big personalities, physically imposing players, winners. The team reflected the manager's relentless drive for perfection. As Grahame Souness said "If you want a football match, they'll out-football you, if you want a fight, they'll out-fight you."

When it was announced we were sacking Mancini I thought it was a colossal mistake. We'd come off the back of 2 brilliant seasons, and one pretty average one. The squad needed refreshing, but finishing second was no disgrace. Ridiculous clubs like Madrid and Chelsea sack managers for finishing second. And then we were added to the list.

The team's decline over the last 3 years has been alarming. I spotted signs early on and expressed them on here. Good league results papered over the cracks and I was pretty much unanimously shouted down by the majority of the board, who seemingly couldn't see any areas of concern.

The decline in the last two years has been stark. The majority view is now that he's a dreadful manager, and the two or three posters who still defend him are now on the recieving end of the shooting down. The longer he has gone on, the more his inadequacies have been highlighted.

We still have some class footballers, but the drive, the determination to win has gone. On our day we can out-football an average side, but we'll get beaten by a decent one. And we couldn't out-fight a bowl of jelly. The personality of the team reflects the personality of the manager. Dour, insipid, disinterested, nice. The plucky loser once again.

30 odd years of bad habits and losing mentality was completely reversed between 2009 and 2012. It's taken Pellegrini 3 years to completely un do that work.

Pellegrini was going to bring harmomy to the dressing room they said. Make it a happy camp. The club were taking a "holistic" approach. Well to all those who celebrated Mancini's sacking and Pellegrini's arrival, I'll say exactly the same as I said that day in 2013; be careful what you wish for.

Perhaps even I didn't think the decline would be as stark as it has been. But I knew we had a winner in charge with Mancini. Someone who would accept nothing but the highest standards. Someone that always strived for perfection, and inspired those working for him to do the same. He might not say hello to the tea lady, but he'd never accept a defeat lying down. We were lucky to have him in charge.

We sacked our Fergurson and appointed our Moyes, and we stuck with him for 3 years. I've apologised for my ouburst that day in 2013 to @Prestwich_Blue and I truly mean it. But in my defence, the reason I was so wound up and carried away that day was because I want was is best for City. We had a winner in charge, who instilled a winning mentality.

I thought the club made a momumental error that day in 2013, and the last two years have cemented that belief more than I could possibly have imagined.

Plenty of people think Mancini had to go, for various reasons. I accept that. But if any positive legacy comes from these last 3 years I hope it's that the club never again make the mistake of hiring a nice guy who takes defeat lying down.

I love it that the club want to play beautiful football, but this is England. Beautiful football is not just passing to feet. It's giving your all, refusing to accept defeat, being brave, defending heroically, winning the midfield battle, knowing you can beat anyone on any given day if you work harder and want to win more.

We must only appoint winners from now on, and we must instill a winning mentality right throughout the club.

The Pellegrini years are almost over now and I hope the club learn from their mistake and never make it again.

Post of the year for me.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I was one of the couple of thousand that stayed to applaud him. I think he's done a truly diabolical job, but he's done his best so felt he deserved some thanks.

I got my only ever Bluemoon ban on the FA Cup final day in 2013 when it was announced Mancini was leaving and Pellegrini was coming in. I was absolutely furious, rather emotional and I went too far and said some things I shouldn't have.

The reason I was so wound up was because I'd waited my whole life for City to be a good football team. We'd had good players in the past but we'd always been the nice guys, the plucky losers.

That team we had from 2010-2013 was full of class footballers. But it also had a relentless drive to win. It was full of big personalities, physically imposing players, winners. The team reflected the manager's relentless drive for perfection. As Grahame Souness said "If you want a football match, they'll out-football you, if you want a fight, they'll out-fight you."

When it was announced we were sacking Mancini I thought it was a colossal mistake. We'd come off the back of 2 brilliant seasons, and one pretty average one. The squad needed refreshing, but finishing second was no disgrace. Ridiculous clubs like Madrid and Chelsea sack managers for finishing second. And then we were added to the list.

The team's decline over the last 3 years has been alarming. I spotted signs early on and expressed them on here. Good league results papered over the cracks and I was pretty much unanimously shouted down by the majority of the board, who seemingly couldn't see any areas of concern.

The decline in the last two years has been stark. The majority view is now that he's a dreadful manager, and the two or three posters who still defend him are now on the recieving end of the shooting down. The longer he has gone on, the more his inadequacies have been highlighted.

We still have some class footballers, but the drive, the determination to win has gone. On our day we can out-football an average side, but we'll get beaten by a decent one. And we couldn't out-fight a bowl of jelly. The personality of the team reflects the personality of the manager. Dour, insipid, disinterested, nice. The plucky loser once again.

30 odd years of bad habits and losing mentality was completely reversed between 2009 and 2012. It's taken Pellegrini 3 years to completely un do that work.

Pellegrini was going to bring harmomy to the dressing room they said. Make it a happy camp. The club were taking a "holistic" approach. Well to all those who celebrated Mancini's sacking and Pellegrini's arrival, I'll say exactly the same as I said that day in 2013; be careful what you wish for.

Perhaps even I didn't think the decline would be as stark as it has been. But I knew we had a winner in charge with Mancini. Someone who would accept nothing but the highest standards. Someone that always strived for perfection, and inspired those working for him to do the same. He might not say hello to the tea lady, but he'd never accept a defeat lying down. We were lucky to have him in charge.

We sacked our Fergurson and appointed our Moyes, and we stuck with him for 3 years. I've apologised for my ouburst that day in 2013 to @Prestwich_Blue and I truly mean it. But in my defence, the reason I was so wound up and carried away that day was because I want was is best for City. We had a winner in charge, who instilled a winning mentality.

I thought the club made a momumental error that day in 2013, and the last two years have cemented that belief more than I could possibly have imagined.

Plenty of people think Mancini had to go, for various reasons. I accept that. But if any positive legacy comes from these last 3 years I hope it's that the club never again make the mistake of hiring a nice guy who takes defeat lying down.

I love it that the club want to play beautiful football, but this is England. Beautiful football is not just passing to feet. It's giving your all, refusing to accept defeat, being brave, defending heroically, winning the midfield battle, knowing you can beat anyone on any given day if you work harder and want to win more.

We must only appoint winners from now on, and we must instill a winning mentality right throughout the club.

The Pellegrini years are almost over now and I hope the club learn from their mistake and never make it again.

Spot on again.

 

[robbieh]

I was one of the couple of thousand that stayed to applaud him. I think he's done a truly diabolical job, but he's done his best so felt he deserved some thanks.

I got my only ever Bluemoon ban on the FA Cup final day in 2013 when it was announced Mancini was leaving and Pellegrini was coming in. I was absolutely furious, rather emotional and I went too far and said some things I shouldn't have.

The reason I was so wound up was because I'd waited my whole life for City to be a good football team. We'd had good players in the past but we'd always been the nice guys, the plucky losers.

That team we had from 2010-2013 was full of class footballers. But it also had a relentless drive to win. It was full of big personalities, physically imposing players, winners. The team reflected the manager's relentless drive for perfection. As Grahame Souness said "If you want a football match, they'll out-football you, if you want a fight, they'll out-fight you."

When it was announced we were sacking Mancini I thought it was a colossal mistake. We'd come off the back of 2 brilliant seasons, and one pretty average one. The squad needed refreshing, but finishing second was no disgrace. Ridiculous clubs like Madrid and Chelsea sack managers for finishing second. And then we were added to the list.

The team's decline over the last 3 years has been alarming. I spotted signs early on and expressed them on here. Good league results papered over the cracks and I was pretty much unanimously shouted down by the majority of the board, who seemingly couldn't see any areas of concern.

The decline in the last two years has been stark. The majority view is now that he's a dreadful manager, and the two or three posters who still defend him are now on the recieving end of the shooting down. The longer he has gone on, the more his inadequacies have been highlighted.

We still have some class footballers, but the drive, the determination to win has gone. On our day we can out-football an average side, but we'll get beaten by a decent one. And we couldn't out-fight a bowl of jelly. The personality of the team reflects the personality of the manager. Dour, insipid, disinterested, nice. The plucky loser once again.

30 odd years of bad habits and losing mentality was completely reversed between 2009 and 2012. It's taken Pellegrini 3 years to completely un do that work.

Pellegrini was going to bring harmomy to the dressing room they said. Make it a happy camp. The club were taking a "holistic" approach. Well to all those who celebrated Mancini's sacking and Pellegrini's arrival, I'll say exactly the same as I said that day in 2013; be careful what you wish for.

Perhaps even I didn't think the decline would be as stark as it has been. But I knew we had a winner in charge with Mancini. Someone who would accept nothing but the highest standards. Someone that always strived for perfection, and inspired those working for him to do the same. He might not say hello to the tea lady, but he'd never accept a defeat lying down. We were lucky to have him in charge.

We sacked our Fergurson and appointed our Moyes, and we stuck with him for 3 years. I've apologised for my ouburst that day in 2013 to @Prestwich_Blue and I truly mean it. But in my defence, the reason I was so wound up and carried away that day was because I want was is best for City. We had a winner in charge, who instilled a winning mentality.

I thought the club made a momumental error that day in 2013, and the last two years have cemented that belief more than I could possibly have imagined.

Plenty of people think Mancini had to go, for various reasons. I accept that. But if any positive legacy comes from these last 3 years I hope it's that the club never again make the mistake of hiring a nice guy who takes defeat lying down.

I love it that the club want to play beautiful football, but this is England. Beautiful football is not just passing to feet. It's giving your all, refusing to accept defeat, being brave, defending heroically, winning the midfield battle, knowing you can beat anyone on any given day if you work harder and want to win more.

We must only appoint winners from now on, and we must instill a winning mentality right throughout the club.

The Pellegrini years are almost over now and I hope the club learn from their mistake and never make it again.

Absolutely brilliant post. Thanks for taking the time to write it. Particularly liked

"We sacked our Fergurson and appointed our Moyes"

 

[Don Karleone]

I was one of the couple of thousand that stayed to applaud him. I think he's done a truly diabolical job, but he's done his best so felt he deserved some thanks.

I got my only ever Bluemoon ban on the FA Cup final day in 2013 when it was announced Mancini was leaving and Pellegrini was coming in. I was absolutely furious, rather emotional and I went too far and said some things I shouldn't have.

The reason I was so wound up was because I'd waited my whole life for City to be a good football team. We'd had good players in the past but we'd always been the nice guys, the plucky losers.

That team we had from 2010-2013 was full of class footballers. But it also had a relentless drive to win. It was full of big personalities, physically imposing players, winners. The team reflected the manager's relentless drive for perfection. As Grahame Souness said "If you want a football match, they'll out-football you, if you want a fight, they'll out-fight you."

When it was announced we were sacking Mancini I thought it was a colossal mistake. We'd come off the back of 2 brilliant seasons, and one pretty average one. The squad needed refreshing, but finishing second was no disgrace. Ridiculous clubs like Madrid and Chelsea sack managers for finishing second. And then we were added to the list.

The team's decline over the last 3 years has been alarming. I spotted signs early on and expressed them on here. Good league results papered over the cracks and I was pretty much unanimously shouted down by the majority of the board, who seemingly couldn't see any areas of concern.

The decline in the last two years has been stark. The majority view is now that he's a dreadful manager, and the two or three posters who still defend him are now on the recieving end of the shooting down. The longer he has gone on, the more his inadequacies have been highlighted.

We still have some class footballers, but the drive, the determination to win has gone. On our day we can out-football an average side, but we'll get beaten by a decent one. And we couldn't out-fight a bowl of jelly. The personality of the team reflects the personality of the manager. Dour, insipid, disinterested, nice. The plucky loser once again.

30 odd years of bad habits and losing mentality was completely reversed between 2009 and 2012. It's taken Pellegrini 3 years to completely un do that work.

Pellegrini was going to bring harmomy to the dressing room they said. Make it a happy camp. The club were taking a "holistic" approach. Well to all those who celebrated Mancini's sacking and Pellegrini's arrival, I'll say exactly the same as I said that day in 2013; be careful what you wish for.

Perhaps even I didn't think the decline would be as stark as it has been. But I knew we had a winner in charge with Mancini. Someone who would accept nothing but the highest standards. Someone that always strived for perfection, and inspired those working for him to do the same. He might not say hello to the tea lady, but he'd never accept a defeat lying down. We were lucky to have him in charge.

We sacked our Fergurson and appointed our Moyes, and we stuck with him for 3 years. I've apologised for my ouburst that day in 2013 to @Prestwich_Blue and I truly mean it. But in my defence, the reason I was so wound up and carried away that day was because I want was is best for City. We had a winner in charge, who instilled a winning mentality.

I thought the club made a momumental error that day in 2013, and the last two years have cemented that belief more than I could possibly have imagined.

Plenty of people think Mancini had to go, for various reasons. I accept that. But if any positive legacy comes from these last 3 years I hope it's that the club never again make the mistake of hiring a nice guy who takes defeat lying down.

I love it that the club want to play beautiful football, but this is England. Beautiful football is not just passing to feet. It's giving your all, refusing to accept defeat, being brave, defending heroically, winning the midfield battle, knowing you can beat anyone on any given day if you work harder and want to win more.

We must only appoint winners from now on, and we must instill a winning mentality right throughout the club.

The Pellegrini years are almost over now and I hope the club learn from their mistake and never make it again.

Another great post

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I was one of the couple of thousand that stayed to applaud him. I think he's done a truly diabolical job, but he's done his best so felt he deserved some thanks.

I got my only ever Bluemoon ban on the FA Cup final day in 2013 when it was announced Mancini was leaving and Pellegrini was coming in. I was absolutely furious, rather emotional and I went too far and said some things I shouldn't have.

The reason I was so wound up was because I'd waited my whole life for City to be a good football team. We'd had good players in the past but we'd always been the nice guys, the plucky losers.

That team we had from 2010-2013 was full of class footballers. But it also had a relentless drive to win. It was full of big personalities, physically imposing players, winners. The team reflected the manager's relentless drive for perfection. As Grahame Souness said "If you want a football match, they'll out-football you, if you want a fight, they'll out-fight you."

When it was announced we were sacking Mancini I thought it was a colossal mistake. We'd come off the back of 2 brilliant seasons, and one pretty average one. The squad needed refreshing, but finishing second was no disgrace. Ridiculous clubs like Madrid and Chelsea sack managers for finishing second. And then we were added to the list.

The team's decline over the last 3 years has been alarming. I spotted signs early on and expressed them on here. Good league results papered over the cracks and I was pretty much unanimously shouted down by the majority of the board, who seemingly couldn't see any areas of concern.

The decline in the last two years has been stark. The majority view is now that he's a dreadful manager, and the two or three posters who still defend him are now on the recieving end of the shooting down. The longer he has gone on, the more his inadequacies have been highlighted.

We still have some class footballers, but the drive, the determination to win has gone. On our day we can out-football an average side, but we'll get beaten by a decent one. And we couldn't out-fight a bowl of jelly. The personality of the team reflects the personality of the manager. Dour, insipid, disinterested, nice. The plucky loser once again.

30 odd years of bad habits and losing mentality was completely reversed between 2009 and 2012. It's taken Pellegrini 3 years to completely un do that work.

Pellegrini was going to bring harmomy to the dressing room they said. Make it a happy camp. The club were taking a "holistic" approach. Well to all those who celebrated Mancini's sacking and Pellegrini's arrival, I'll say exactly the same as I said that day in 2013; be careful what you wish for.

Perhaps even I didn't think the decline would be as stark as it has been. But I knew we had a winner in charge with Mancini. Someone who would accept nothing but the highest standards. Someone that always strived for perfection, and inspired those working for him to do the same. He might not say hello to the tea lady, but he'd never accept a defeat lying down. We were lucky to have him in charge.

We sacked our Fergurson and appointed our Moyes, and we stuck with him for 3 years. I've apologised for my ouburst that day in 2013 to @Prestwich_Blue and I truly mean it. But in my defence, the reason I was so wound up and carried away that day was because I want was is best for City. We had a winner in charge, who instilled a winning mentality.

I thought the club made a momumental error that day in 2013, and the last two years have cemented that belief more than I could possibly have imagined.

Plenty of people think Mancini had to go, for various reasons. I accept that. But if any positive legacy comes from these last 3 years I hope it's that the club never again make the mistake of hiring a nice guy who takes defeat lying down.

I love it that the club want to play beautiful football, but this is England. Beautiful football is not just passing to feet. It's giving your all, refusing to accept defeat, being brave, defending heroically, winning the midfield battle, knowing you can beat anyone on any given day if you work harder and want to win more.

We must only appoint winners from now on, and we must instill a winning mentality right throughout the club.

The Pellegrini years are almost over now and I hope the club learn from their mistake and never make it again.

Great post, mate, especially your use of the word 'insipid', a personal favourite.

We are in a bad moment.

 

[andy h]

Thanks Shaelumstash, that is an excellent post.
I wanted to post something earlier and gave up. Your post says a lot about the way I feel too.

 

[Damien10]

Maybe the treatment of the City fans will benefit his career, maybe it will make him think and analyse his time spent at the club. All them times he messed up by playing 4-4-2 maybe he will learn and take it all with him into his next job.

He definitely took City backwards, and him sacrificing league games when the future of the club and it's place in the Champions League wasn't secure is a disgrace in my opinion.

What I find fascinating is that he desperately wanted to win the Champions League and he deployed the 4-5-1 system in these games. So why in a game like today that meant so much for the clubs future did he play 4-4-2 a system that's lost him many games against top clubs?

 

[Marvin]

I was one of the couple of thousand that stayed to applaud him. I think he's done a truly diabolical job, but he's done his best so felt he deserved some thanks.

I got my only ever Bluemoon ban on the FA Cup final day in 2013 when it was announced Mancini was leaving and Pellegrini was coming in. I was absolutely furious, rather emotional and I went too far and said some things I shouldn't have.

The reason I was so wound up was because I'd waited my whole life for City to be a good football team. We'd had good players in the past but we'd always been the nice guys, the plucky losers.

That team we had from 2010-2013 was full of class footballers. But it also had a relentless drive to win. It was full of big personalities, physically imposing players, winners. The team reflected the manager's relentless drive for perfection. As Grahame Souness said "If you want a football match, they'll out-football you, if you want a fight, they'll out-fight you."

When it was announced we were sacking Mancini I thought it was a colossal mistake. We'd come off the back of 2 brilliant seasons, and one pretty average one. The squad needed refreshing, but finishing second was no disgrace. Ridiculous clubs like Madrid and Chelsea sack managers for finishing second. And then we were added to the list.

The team's decline over the last 3 years has been alarming. I spotted signs early on and expressed them on here. Good league results papered over the cracks and I was pretty much unanimously shouted down by the majority of the board, who seemingly couldn't see any areas of concern.

The decline in the last two years has been stark. The majority view is now that he's a dreadful manager, and the two or three posters who still defend him are now on the recieving end of the shooting down. The longer he has gone on, the more his inadequacies have been highlighted.

We still have some class footballers, but the drive, the determination to win has gone. On our day we can out-football an average side, but we'll get beaten by a decent one. And we couldn't out-fight a bowl of jelly. The personality of the team reflects the personality of the manager. Dour, insipid, disinterested, nice. The plucky loser once again.

30 odd years of bad habits and losing mentality was completely reversed between 2009 and 2012. It's taken Pellegrini 3 years to completely un do that work.

Pellegrini was going to bring harmomy to the dressing room they said. Make it a happy camp. The club were taking a "holistic" approach. Well to all those who celebrated Mancini's sacking and Pellegrini's arrival, I'll say exactly the same as I said that day in 2013; be careful what you wish for.

Perhaps even I didn't think the decline would be as stark as it has been. But I knew we had a winner in charge with Mancini. Someone who would accept nothing but the highest standards. Someone that always strived for perfection, and inspired those working for him to do the same. He might not say hello to the tea lady, but he'd never accept a defeat lying down. We were lucky to have him in charge.

We sacked our Fergurson and appointed our Moyes, and we stuck with him for 3 years. I've apologised for my ouburst that day in 2013 to @Prestwich_Blue and I truly mean it. But in my defence, the reason I was so wound up and carried away that day was because I want was is best for City. We had a winner in charge, who instilled a winning mentality.

I thought the club made a momumental error that day in 2013, and the last two years have cemented that belief more than I could possibly have imagined.

Plenty of people think Mancini had to go, for various reasons. I accept that. But if any positive legacy comes from these last 3 years I hope it's that the club never again make the mistake of hiring a nice guy who takes defeat lying down.

I love it that the club want to play beautiful football, but this is England. Beautiful football is not just passing to feet. It's giving your all, refusing to accept defeat, being brave, defending heroically, winning the midfield battle, knowing you can beat anyone on any given day if you work harder and want to win more.

We must only appoint winners from now on, and we must instill a winning mentality right throughout the club.

The Pellegrini years are almost over now and I hope the club learn from their mistake and never make it again.

Good read. Not sure I agree about mancini. His record since has been poor

The holistic talk was a bit embarrassing at the time, but clearly there was a lot of conflict and the comment stemmed from that. I'm not sure that the best management style is to totally alienate the players. You have to bring them with you. I agree about the commitment. It's been missing all season, but today we got in in spades. Such a pity we didn't get the win we deserved, but to be honest after the serious or pathetic performances we don't deserve to be in the top 4.

 

[Big Yaya Wilko 12]

I was one of the couple of thousand that stayed to applaud him. I think he's done a truly diabolical job, but he's done his best so felt he deserved some thanks.

I got my only ever Bluemoon ban on the FA Cup final day in 2013 when it was announced Mancini was leaving and Pellegrini was coming in. I was absolutely furious, rather emotional and I went too far and said some things I shouldn't have.

The reason I was so wound up was because I'd waited my whole life for City to be a good football team. We'd had good players in the past but we'd always been the nice guys, the plucky losers.

That team we had from 2010-2013 was full of class footballers. But it also had a relentless drive to win. It was full of big personalities, physically imposing players, winners. The team reflected the manager's relentless drive for perfection. As Grahame Souness said "If you want a football match, they'll out-football you, if you want a fight, they'll out-fight you."

When it was announced we were sacking Mancini I thought it was a colossal mistake. We'd come off the back of 2 brilliant seasons, and one pretty average one. The squad needed refreshing, but finishing second was no disgrace. Ridiculous clubs like Madrid and Chelsea sack managers for finishing second. And then we were added to the list.

The team's decline over the last 3 years has been alarming. I spotted signs early on and expressed them on here. Good league results papered over the cracks and I was pretty much unanimously shouted down by the majority of the board, who seemingly couldn't see any areas of concern.

The decline in the last two years has been stark. The majority view is now that he's a dreadful manager, and the two or three posters who still defend him are now on the recieving end of the shooting down. The longer he has gone on, the more his inadequacies have been highlighted.

We still have some class footballers, but the drive, the determination to win has gone. On our day we can out-football an average side, but we'll get beaten by a decent one. And we couldn't out-fight a bowl of jelly. The personality of the team reflects the personality of the manager. Dour, insipid, disinterested, nice. The plucky loser once again.

30 odd years of bad habits and losing mentality was completely reversed between 2009 and 2012. It's taken Pellegrini 3 years to completely un do that work.

Pellegrini was going to bring harmomy to the dressing room they said. Make it a happy camp. The club were taking a "holistic" approach. Well to all those who celebrated Mancini's sacking and Pellegrini's arrival, I'll say exactly the same as I said that day in 2013; be careful what you wish for.

Perhaps even I didn't think the decline would be as stark as it has been. But I knew we had a winner in charge with Mancini. Someone who would accept nothing but the highest standards. Someone that always strived for perfection, and inspired those working for him to do the same. He might not say hello to the tea lady, but he'd never accept a defeat lying down. We were lucky to have him in charge.

We sacked our Fergurson and appointed our Moyes, and we stuck with him for 3 years. I've apologised for my ouburst that day in 2013 to @Prestwich_Blue and I truly mean it. But in my defence, the reason I was so wound up and carried away that day was because I want was is best for City. We had a winner in charge, who instilled a winning mentality.

I thought the club made a momumental error that day in 2013, and the last two years have cemented that belief more than I could possibly have imagined.

Plenty of people think Mancini had to go, for various reasons. I accept that. But if any positive legacy comes from these last 3 years I hope it's that the club never again make the mistake of hiring a nice guy who takes defeat lying down.

I love it that the club want to play beautiful football, but this is England. Beautiful football is not just passing to feet. It's giving your all, refusing to accept defeat, being brave, defending heroically, winning the midfield battle, knowing you can beat anyone on any given day if you work harder and want to win more.

We must only appoint winners from now on, and we must instill a winning mentality right throughout the club.

The Pellegrini years are almost over now and I hope the club learn from their mistake and never make it again.

Fantastic post.

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

Maybe the treatment of the City fans will benefit his career, maybe it will make him think and analyse his time spent at the club. All them times he messed up by playing 4-4-2 maybe he will learn and take it all with him into his next job.

He definitely took City backwards, and him sacrificing league games when the future of the club and it's place in the Champions League wasn't secure is a disgrace in my opinion.

What I find fascinating is that he desperately wanted to win the Champions League and he deployed the 4-5-1 system in these games. So why in a game like today that meant so much for the clubs future did he play 4-4-2 a system that's lost him many games against top clubs?

Well your completely right and thats the crux of the matter.

Glad the clown will be gone after 90 minutes more football.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Good read. Not sure I agree about mancini. His record since has been poor

The holistic talk was a bit embarrassing at the time, but clearly there was a lot of conflict and the comment stemmed from that. I'm not sure that the best management style is to totally alienate the players. You have to bring them with you. I agree about the commitment. It's been missing all season, but today we got in in spades. Such a pity we didn't get the win we deserved, but to be honest after the serious or pathetic performances we don't deserve to be in the top 4.

Mancini's record since being poor or otherwise elsewhere doesn't really hold any relevance to what he did here, mate.

He completely changed the mentality of the club. May 13th 2012 being the best example. Could you imagine this team doing that now? I know I couldn't.

Perhaps his management style of alienating players won't work in the long term. But can you think of a single player who has improved under Pellegrini's nice guy approach? Anyone who's attitude has got better?

Standards have dropped alarmingly. Defeats are accepted now without so much as a murmour.

Mancini would occasionally dig players out in the press, but it usual got a reaction and an improvement. Nasri being a prime example. He's the kind of player that gives his best when he's got something to prove. Take it easy on him and tell him he's great and he'll walk round like a superstar bell end.

We played well today, we probably should have won. But was there any City fan watching that wouldn't have made that Sterling substitution 10 minutes earlier? Walcott coming on changed the game for them. You could see their goal coming a mile off. Everyone could see it except for Pellegrini and he made the change too late.

We got back on top after DeBruyne went central, he suddenly looked interested again. We were creating chances, getting on top. And then he brought Bony on and moved DeBruyne to right wing! What on earth was he thinking?! What is the guy on that he looks at how the game is panning out and he thinks "What this game needs is a bit less DeBruyne, and a bit more Bony". It's just absolutely mind boggling to me.