West Brom (A) | Post-Match Thread

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I thought it was a sumptuous performance last night. However, I was a little disappointed we didn't take advantage and really assert our domination in the second half.

If we'd been seven up at the half, Baggies couldn't have complained. A post hit, two balls through the corridor of uncertainty of the six yard box, and a delightful pass from Gundog just behind Foden.

I guess its a scales of justice situation. More goals and risk players getting taken out by a frustrated opposition, or keep the ball and away from the opposition.
Do you remember when Pellegrini played Negredo against West Ham when we were already about 8 up or something from the first leg

Negredo (who was on fire) ended up doing his shoulder in that game and was out for a long time and in truth never really came back
 
Do you remember when Pellegrini played Negredo against West Ham when we were already about 8 up or something from the first leg

Negredo (who was on fire) ended up doing his shoulder in that game and was out for a long time and in truth never really came back
Yes, that's the thing that always worries me.

Do we try and get goals under our belt in case a down turn of form is just around the corner? Its a balancing act. Were something like +8 on the next group of teams aren't we?
 
Ha!

For the record I believe EXd is extremo derecho = right wing.

MP = mediapunto = #10 / attacking midfielder / playmaker.
Thanks .....I didn't know that, must admit I was scratching my head wondering what they meant. To be fair to Mahrez he had a pretty good game against West Brom.
 
Things weren't moving in the right direction during our first 9 games though. Now were they?
Most of the games in our winning run has been against sides that you would be very disappointed if you didn't beat. Theres no denying we have picked up the pace though and thats to be welcomed. Onwards and upwards.
It's all about opinions .
Gloating has a habit of coming back to bite you in the arse.
To be honest, we started the season physically more knackered than every other Prem team having gone to the last week of the Ch L, with virtually no rest between seasons. And going through a barren spell doesn't mean things aren't going in the right direction - it just means there are are limits to what a team of human beings can do. Every single great team in history anywhere has had runs of poor results, but some on here seem to think we should be immune from poor runs. Then when things aren't coming off, you get the knee-jerk reaction brigade saying 'Pep's lost it' - sat there at home with no idea of what's going on in the dressing room. Pep lost his mother to Covid - many on here didn't think about that when saying 'He looks like he's had enough, we need someone else'. He is the greatest coach on the planet and given the Prem the greatest football in its history. Pep is giving us the greatest football any of us are likely to see in our lifetimes. Thankfully, the moaners don't get to choose the coach - if they did, nothing would get done because in my 50-odd years following City, the ten nearest moaners to me usually have ten different opinions.
 
I thought it was a sumptuous performance last night. However, I was a little disappointed we didn't take advantage and really assert our domination in the second half.

If we'd been seven up at the half, Baggies couldn't have complained. A post hit, two balls through the corridor of uncertainty of the six yard box, and a delightful pass from Gundog just behind Foden.

I guess its a scales of justice situation. More goals and risk players getting taken out by a frustrated opposition, or keep the ball and away from the opposition.
We could have had ten, but we went into game management/energy saving mode. If this was the last game of the season, we would have gone for the max number of goals with maybe only a cup final or two to come.
 
Things weren't moving in the right direction during our first 9 games though. Now were they?
Most of the games in our winning run has been against sides that you would be very disappointed if you didn't beat. Theres no denying we have picked up the pace though and thats to be welcomed. Onwards and upwards.
It's all about opinions .
Gloating has a habit of coming back to bite you in the arse.
Our record against the 9 most credible challengers (Leic, Everton, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spuds, Dippers, Utd, Villa, Hammers) is:
p8, w3, d3, l2, points 12 in 8 games.
Our record in the other 11 games is w9, d2, lnone. Points 29.
it might be enough if we simply replicate that form in the second half of the season but realistically, we have to improve against the challenging pack. The upside is that we have won our last two games against them (Chelsea and Villa). No room for gloating or complacency though.
 
Excellent performance tonight from City and I was delighted to see Big Sam, The Dinosaurs Dinosaur, Allardyce is still sprinkling his unmagic dust. Everywhere the **** goes, death and pestilence are waiting. Every year or so they open his crypt as some idiot thinks, we are right in the shite, how could we possibly make it worse? Sam trots up and shows them how. After he gets sacked and 're embalmed, another club pops up to sign on for a fate worse than a fate worse than death. He must be in treble figures of clubs beguiled by his hype and thrown off a cliff. Once he gets sacked tomorrow, I'm convinced he will end up at Celtic and that will be my signal to walk the earth. But, apart from that ****, you're looking tasty.
Pep was right. He must be a genius.
 
I listened to Fat Sam's post-match interview, (did he really need to be chewing gum while talking). On the second goal, he said all the players stopped when the offside flag went up, clearly, one set of players didn't. He dismissed "Play to the whistle" as nonsense and how many times do you see a goalkeeper make every effort to stop an offside shot "just in case"?
When in fact he should gave been applauding VAR in ensuring the right decision was made for the good of football. Anything less would have been a travesty of even greater proportions.
 
Pep played the false 9 formation frequently at Barca. It was the role Messi specialised in. The fullbacks moving to midfield was common at Bayern where Phil Lahm became one of the best players in the world.
At City he seems to be refining what he did at Barca and Bayern and achieving even greater heights. We are lucky to be living through this period in football. Pep has re-invented the game but his main inspiration is the Dutch (Ajax) total football of the 70s. It's bloody amazing. The press in this country don't deserve Pep.
The situation at Bayern was that you had two fullbacks that actually started as midfielders and have the qualities to be good midfielders, even if Alaba would have problems with a 360-degree-job. If they had better dribbling qualities or Lahm would have been faster he might have played him differently. And you always have to see Müller's role in the team combined with that, too, as he gave support not just to the striker but to the wingers, too.

I do not think that there is just that "one" system - you have to find ways that match best to the accumulation of players + their strenghts and weaknesse that your team has. As great as e.g. Lahm was - he for sure could not go the fast miles that today often are asked by "modern" fullbacks when speed seems to be the main criteria. But that role at this time was fine to play out his strengths. Pep at that time combined the midfield qualities of Alonso with that of Lahm and Alaba - and you like this could free Vidal to be more present near the box or Thiago to be more in a creative role behind 4.
 

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