What do balo and dzeko bring to the team?

Cortez said:
ThatBlueGuy said:
Balotelli is one of the most talented strikers around, He just has a terrible attitude and hes very lazy. If he had the work rate of Tevez he would be unbelievable.

Dzeko dosnt bring anything, I honestly would rather see Jo's name on the team sheet now.


i think its more of a languid style , and of course after a defeat its easy to pick those kind of players out.

' A languid style'

Fuckin hilarious,it's very simple - he's a mercernary,boneidle,unenthusiastic,mard twat.

And you're right it's very easy to pick those kind of wankers out.
 
Would rather see Jo's name on the teamsheet? I bet you would do a fantastic job as manager, can't see why sheikh mansour hasn't offered you a job on the coaching staff?

As for Balotelli and Dzeko - then I seem to remember alot of our fickle fans saying the same about goater, de jong, kompany in days gone by.

Ummmm shall i support the team Saturday or pick as many holes in it?


THIS TEAM DOESN'T NEED YOU!
 
teddykgb said:
We need to stop blaming the strikers. It's the most elementary of football analysis to blame the strikers when the goals stop flowing. It's so basic as to be useless, and it's incredibly annoying to see everyone complaining about Dzeko and Balotelli as if they're the issue.

The team as a whole is failing miserably. Tevez has 2 goals in his last 12 games. Even prior to that we were mostly getting by on solid defensive efforts and Tevez making the most of our scant chances, and that isn't sustainable by anyone, it is bound to lead to scoring droughts.

Dzeko has done a lot of good things in our shirt, but we haven't been close to capable going forward in a manner to make him, Carlos, or Balotelli into a serious threat. Forwards threaten when they're able to take on a stretched or misplaced defense, and we've been completely unable to stretch or disorient a defense pretty much all season. Liverpool opened us up last night by beating our midfield and forcing the defenders to stretch wide, it opened up space for a few deflected balls to find some talented players in dangerous positions, but our slow attack rate and lack of midfield means that these opportunities don't present themselves for our strikers, which means they basically either have to take on 4 or 5 guys, get on the end of a corner kick, or wait for Silva to threat a needle and take a half chance. None of these are good, sustainable scoring options.

Our problem has been and continues to be the midfield. When people talk about the service a striker receives, it can't be limited to the idea of crosses being lobbed into the box--that's only one aspect. We've just been shockingly incapable of turning defense into offense and creating a break that affords strikers the space and options needed to truly unlock a defense. When a player like Mario Balotelli and Carlos Tevez manages to struggle scoring it's preposterous to me that people look at them or Dzeko and blame them for an inability to score. Our woes are in getting these players into positions where scoring is anything more than a prayer, we're not generating nearly enough chances, breaks, or stretching, and we're paying a very heavy price for it.

Agree.
 
Totadisco said:
Mancini + Italy + football - England = team
team + (Tevez + Dzeko) - Hart = team losing 1:0 to Liverpool
Team losing 1:0 to liverpool - Tevez + Balo = team losing 1:0 to liverpool who live up at moment
team losing 1:0 to liverpool who live up at moment - Boyata - Kolarov = Team losing 3:0 to liverpool in first half
Team losing 3:0 to liverpool in first half + 2nd half = Team losing 3:0 to Liverpool and lucky to keep it that way.
By supstituting Tevez for Balo, I got this equation
Team + (Balo + Dzeko)² - Hart - Boyata - Kolarov + 2nd half = Team losing 3:0 to Liverpool and lucky to keep it that way.
Still, the equation was not solved. It gave me Team who draw 0:0 against Liverpool, which is not correct
So I used Mancini"s theory of relativity and Bluemoon substitute laws and put negative Balo, since he s got negative personality. So I got..
Team + (-Balo + Dzeko)² - Hart - Boyata - Kolarov + 2nd half = Team losing 3:0 to Liverpool and lucky to keep it that way.
And if (-Balo + Dzeko)² = 0, that means that..
Team - Hart - Boyata - Kolarov + 2nd half = Team losing 3:0 to Liverpool and lucky to keep it that way.

Congrats to me... I am more genious then Kanye West...

But can Kanye West spell 'genius'?
 
Chrisuk23 said:
After watching them both I can't see what either of them bring to the team.
Is dzeko's height an illusion?? Constantly getting beat in the air by Lucas, no skill and poor control also seems to ne wearing concrete boots!
Balo crap in the air and a shit bag oh and a lazy twat.
50 million doesn't get you much these days!!

shame,pitty,embarrassment?
 
Zmajuga said:
teddykgb said:
We need to stop blaming the strikers. It's the most elementary of football analysis to blame the strikers when the goals stop flowing. It's so basic as to be useless, and it's incredibly annoying to see everyone complaining about Dzeko and Balotelli as if they're the issue.

The team as a whole is failing miserably. Tevez has 2 goals in his last 12 games. Even prior to that we were mostly getting by on solid defensive efforts and Tevez making the most of our scant chances, and that isn't sustainable by anyone, it is bound to lead to scoring droughts.

Dzeko has done a lot of good things in our shirt, but we haven't been close to capable going forward in a manner to make him, Carlos, or Balotelli into a serious threat. Forwards threaten when they're able to take on a stretched or misplaced defense, and we've been completely unable to stretch or disorient a defense pretty much all season. Liverpool opened us up last night by beating our midfield and forcing the defenders to stretch wide, it opened up space for a few deflected balls to find some talented players in dangerous positions, but our slow attack rate and lack of midfield means that these opportunities don't present themselves for our strikers, which means they basically either have to take on 4 or 5 guys, get on the end of a corner kick, or wait for Silva to threat a needle and take a half chance. None of these are good, sustainable scoring options.

Our problem has been and continues to be the midfield. When people talk about the service a striker receives, it can't be limited to the idea of crosses being lobbed into the box--that's only one aspect. We've just been shockingly incapable of turning defense into offense and creating a break that affords strikers the space and options needed to truly unlock a defense. When a player like Mario Balotelli and Carlos Tevez manages to struggle scoring it's preposterous to me that people look at them or Dzeko and blame them for an inability to score. Our woes are in getting these players into positions where scoring is anything more than a prayer, we're not generating nearly enough chances, breaks, or stretching, and we're paying a very heavy price for it.

Agree.

This is about a post of the year IMO.

We are the only team that, when attacking, opposing defenders are ALWAYS lined up in proper spots, consolidated...

That's why I hate this slow build-up shit, cause it allows oposing defences to re-organize EVERY TIME.

It makes our forwards look worse than they are (especially Dzeko IMO) as oposing defenders can close-mark everyone and gang up on a man receiving a pass, as we're so slow and predictable going forward.

It's the system that really sucks, not the players.
 
Balo brings unpredictability, you never know if he will get sent off or cry off and Dzeko will be a good player for us in the future if we are patient.
 
ayia napa blues said:
In dezko case you tube really can make anyone look good, painfully slow

It's not YouTube that made him look good.

It's 60+ goals in 2 Bundesliga seasons.

Now, what's your favorite sport (cause it cant be football)?
 
teddykgb said:
We need to stop blaming the strikers. It's the most elementary of football analysis to blame the strikers when the goals stop flowing. It's so basic as to be useless, and it's incredibly annoying to see everyone complaining about Dzeko and Balotelli as if they're the issue.

The team as a whole is failing miserably. Tevez has 2 goals in his last 12 games. Even prior to that we were mostly getting by on solid defensive efforts and Tevez making the most of our scant chances, and that isn't sustainable by anyone, it is bound to lead to scoring droughts.

Dzeko has done a lot of good things in our shirt, but we haven't been close to capable going forward in a manner to make him, Carlos, or Balotelli into a serious threat. Forwards threaten when they're able to take on a stretched or misplaced defense, and we've been completely unable to stretch or disorient a defense pretty much all season. Liverpool opened us up last night by beating our midfield and forcing the defenders to stretch wide, it opened up space for a few deflected balls to find some talented players in dangerous positions, but our slow attack rate and lack of midfield means that these opportunities don't present themselves for our strikers, which means they basically either have to take on 4 or 5 guys, get on the end of a corner kick, or wait for Silva to threat a needle and take a half chance. None of these are good, sustainable scoring options.

Our problem has been and continues to be the midfield. When people talk about the service a striker receives, it can't be limited to the idea of crosses being lobbed into the box--that's only one aspect. We've just been shockingly incapable of turning defense into offense and creating a break that affords strikers the space and options needed to truly unlock a defense. When a player like Mario Balotelli and Carlos Tevez manages to struggle scoring it's preposterous to me that people look at them or Dzeko and blame them for an inability to score. Our woes are in getting these players into positions where scoring is anything more than a prayer, we're not generating nearly enough chances, breaks, or stretching, and we're paying a very heavy price for it.

Wholeheartedly agree. From the start of the season we have relied far too much on Tevez scoring and the lack of goals from the midfield is remarkably frightening.
 

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