What do people think of this: (TES) social network shuts down suddenly?

nixmith2

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Well I've been on bluemoon six years and it's great to be a part of it. But I was actually on a similar thing to do with my job (a support role in education) since 2012. You may know of the Times Educational Supplement newspaper/magazine, well there is also a website too, well obviously, these days! (www.tes.com)

A big part of that website was the TES community, now to call it a social network (as I did in the thread title) is pushing it a bit, but what else to call it? It was basically like bluemoon, but for teachers and other school staff.

It had all sorts of sections: primary, secondary, different subjects, SEN, supply, working abroad, pension discussion, advice for new teachers etc. etc. The most popular was called 'personal' which was basically like 'off topic' here.

On 23rd December last year, the TES community page wasn't available, just a message 'TES community is down for planned maintenance....'

It stayed that way over Xmas and the New Year. Obviously their I.T. people don't take holidays! I did send a couple of emails to customer services & they said the maintenance was taking longer than necessary, to make sure all aspects of the site met the requirements of 'technical compliance' (whatever that is). In the new year, I actually managed to reconnect with some of my virtual friends from 'TES', because an internet search revealed the issue was under discussion on 'mumsnet'. They too had received similar emails, when they made enquiries.

On 18th January the TES community was shut down. It had been running for twenty years. The closing message can be seen here: https://www.tes.com/community


It was never reopened after the 'down for planned maintenance' message, just before Christmas (an Xmas when many people were alone) therefore people couldn't swap contact details with their acquaintances from the forums.

In mumsnet, I learnt at least one member had immediately made a request under GDPR legislation to get access to the archive so they could secure their own posts. They were told it had all been erased on the 18th.

Now, legally, according to the terms & conditions, all the content was 'owned' by TES Global and the Ts & Cs also stated that they have the right to delete the content. However, to erase twenty years of advice, support, tips and discussion covering all aspects of UK education seems morally, if not legally, wrong. Especially when the TES organisation claims to be the leading education publication/website in the UK and I repeat - there was no warning, not even a weekend to allow access so people could exchange contacts or save favourite messages.

Thanks for reading and I'd love your thoughts.

P.S. There are some conspiracy theories flying around about this TES thing. As you can imagine, the opening for one day and then closing schools on the 5th January, would have been much discussed in the community! Was pressure brought to bear from _____________________ (insert your own ideas here) to prevent this from happening. Did potential criticism of the government and it's handling of the pandemic, especially relating to schooling, not 'fit well' with how the TES organisation wanted itself to be seen, online. Is that what is meant by 'technical compliance'?
 
No idea what's going on but I sell teaching resources on there. Hit me up if there are any TEFL teachers on here.
 
Well I've been on bluemoon six years and it's great to be a part of it. But I was actually on a similar thing to do with my job (a support role in education) since 2012. You may know of the Times Educational Supplement newspaper/magazine, well there is also a website too, well obviously, these days! (www.tes.com)

A big part of that website was the TES community, now to call it a social network (as I did in the thread title) is pushing it a bit, but what else to call it? It was basically like bluemoon, but for teachers and other school staff.

It had all sorts of sections: primary, secondary, different subjects, SEN, supply, working abroad, pension discussion, advice for new teachers etc. etc. The most popular was called 'personal' which was basically like 'off topic' here.

On 23rd December last year, the TES community page wasn't available, just a message 'TES community is down for planned maintenance....'

It stayed that way over Xmas and the New Year. Obviously their I.T. people don't take holidays! I did send a couple of emails to customer services & they said the maintenance was taking longer than necessary, to make sure all aspects of the site met the requirements of 'technical compliance' (whatever that is). In the new year, I actually managed to reconnect with some of my virtual friends from 'TES', because an internet search revealed the issue was under discussion on 'mumsnet'. They too had received similar emails, when they made enquiries.

On 18th January the TES community was shut down. It had been running for twenty years. The closing message can be seen here: https://www.tes.com/community


It was never reopened after the 'down for planned maintenance' message, just before Christmas (an Xmas when many people were alone) therefore people couldn't swap contact details with their acquaintances from the forums.

In mumsnet, I learnt at least one member had immediately made a request under GDPR legislation to get access to the archive so they could secure their own posts. They were told it had all been erased on the 18th.

Now, legally, according to the terms & conditions, all the content was 'owned' by TES Global and the Ts & Cs also stated that they have the right to delete the content. However, to erase twenty years of advice, support, tips and discussion covering all aspects of UK education seems morally, if not legally, wrong. Especially when the TES organisation claims to be the leading education publication/website in the UK and I repeat - there was no warning, not even a weekend to allow access so people could exchange contacts or save favourite messages.

Thanks for reading and I'd love your thoughts.

P.S. There are some conspiracy theories flying around about this TES thing. As you can imagine, the opening for one day and then closing schools on the 5th January, would have been much discussed in the community! Was pressure brought to bear from _____________________ (insert your own ideas here) to prevent this from happening. Did potential criticism of the government and it's handling of the pandemic, especially relating to schooling, not 'fit well' with how the TES organisation wanted itself to be seen, online. Is that what is meant by 'technical compliance'?
It had been strange. I used to use the site as part of my former role and carried on even after I'd left so it's done me a favour to be honest as I had no need to look at it any more and suppose I did out of habit.
I can't see it being anything to do with schools closing as it remained open during the previous closures.
From the statement they made, I think someone threatened legal action from comments on there and they have pulled it to be on the safe side.
 
No idea what's going on but I sell teaching resources on there. Hit me up if there are any TEFL teachers on here.

The resource part of the website isn't effected, however there may some reduction in overall traffic as the community was very popular. They tried to suggest not and gave its decline as one reason for pulling it, but that was rubbish.

Many of the people who were active on the threads AND also put resources on TES (either free or paid for) have since pulled them, to show their displeasure at what has happened.
 
Well I've been on bluemoon six years and it's great to be a part of it. But I was actually on a similar thing to do with my job (a support role in education) since 2012. You may know of the Times Educational Supplement newspaper/magazine, well there is also a website too, well obviously, these days! (www.tes.com)

A big part of that website was the TES community, now to call it a social network (as I did in the thread title) is pushing it a bit, but what else to call it? It was basically like bluemoon, but for teachers and other school staff.

It had all sorts of sections: primary, secondary, different subjects, SEN, supply, working abroad, pension discussion, advice for new teachers etc. etc. The most popular was called 'personal' which was basically like 'off topic' here.

On 23rd December last year, the TES community page wasn't available, just a message 'TES community is down for planned maintenance....'

It stayed that way over Xmas and the New Year. Obviously their I.T. people don't take holidays! I did send a couple of emails to customer services & they said the maintenance was taking longer than necessary, to make sure all aspects of the site met the requirements of 'technical compliance' (whatever that is). In the new year, I actually managed to reconnect with some of my virtual friends from 'TES', because an internet search revealed the issue was under discussion on 'mumsnet'. They too had received similar emails, when they made enquiries.

On 18th January the TES community was shut down. It had been running for twenty years. The closing message can be seen here: https://www.tes.com/community

It was never reopened after the 'down for planned maintenance' message, just before Christmas (an Xmas when many people were alone) therefore people couldn't swap contact details with their acquaintances from the forums.

In mumsnet, I learnt at least one member had immediately made a request under GDPR legislation to get access to the archive so they could secure their own posts. They were told it had all been erased on the 18th.

Now, legally, according to the terms & conditions, all the content was 'owned' by TES Global and the Ts & Cs also stated that they have the right to delete the content. However, to erase twenty years of advice, support, tips and discussion covering all aspects of UK education seems morally, if not legally, wrong. Especially when the TES organisation claims to be the leading education publication/website in the UK and I repeat - there was no warning, not even a weekend to allow access so people could exchange contacts or save favourite messages.

Thanks for reading and I'd love your thoughts.

P.S. There are some conspiracy theories flying around about this TES thing. As you can imagine, the opening for one day and then closing schools on the 5th January, would have been much discussed in the community! Was pressure brought to bear from _____________________ (insert your own ideas here) to prevent this from happening. Did potential criticism of the government and it's handling of the pandemic, especially relating to schooling, not 'fit well' with how the TES organisation wanted itself to be seen, online. Is that what is meant by 'technical compliance'?
As a tutor I was a regular browser and occasional poster on the TES Forums. My personal opinion is that TES binned the forums as they were trying to get more onside with the DfE which had taken a lot of justifiable stick on the forums re the covid-related school closures and the shambolic handling of the exam grades last summer. It's their website so I guess they can do what they like but using IT maintenance as a cover for it was a really snide move.
 
The resource part of the website isn't effected, however there may some reduction in overall traffic as the community was very popular. They tried to suggest not and gave its decline as one reason for pulling it, but that was rubbish.

Many of the people who were active on the threads AND also put resources on TES (either free or paid for) have since pulled them, to show their displeasure at what has happened.
Wow, completely missed all this. To be honest I almost pulled my resources when I found out I’d only receive 60% royalties. I get 80% from Teachers Pay Teachers and a lot more sales. The only reason why I kept my stuff on TES was because it took me 4/5 weeks to upload everything and I couldn’t be arsed wasting all that time. So I left them up but I don’t do any advertising for them.
 
As a tutor I was a regular browser and occasional poster on the TES Forums. My personal opinion is that TES binned the forums as they were trying to get more onside with the DfE which had taken a lot of justifiable stick on the forums re the covid-related school closures and the shambolic handling of the exam grades last summer. It's their website so I guess they can do what they like but using IT maintenance as a cover for it was a really snide move.
Makes sense. Teachers are not the biggest supporters of this govt.
 
Makes sense. Teachers are not the biggest supporters of this govt.
Oh this is so very true! I had some right-ding-dong battles over Brexit/Boris/Biden & often I just took a 'rightwing-stance' for the crack! I was often a lone-voice I can tell you!

However, that doesn't explain or excuse why NO-notice was given and in fact lies were told in e-mails about the 'maintenance issues'. I believe when 'friends re-united' shutdown, they did it right.
 
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