What happened to the fella off here who.....

[gaudinho's stolen car]

There's no way it was only 3 months ago... is there? It seems like a lot longer!

It was, I know it seems longer but it was only 3 months ago. I'll never forget it, I know that - fake or real.

I know mate it hit me like a thunderbolt, mard as it sounds I rang my mum and had a chat with her about it all. Just seems like a lot longer ago.

 

[Lucky Toma]

I've already put my view on this on a previous page but just to state once more -
Imagine (and its of course a horrible scenario to imagine) that you've just found out that your spouse and child has died.
Do you immediately curl up into a ball and cry solidly for weeks?

Of course you dont. Only seconds earlier you were making a pasta meal and thinking about whether to get a few beers in for that nights telly.
You cannot, as a human being, immediately absorb that kind of change instantly.

You are, in effect, like a boxer who's just taken one hell of a smack and, instead of falling to the canvas, you attempt to continue to stand and take the impact of the blow.
Punch-drunk basically.
We've all seen such boxers do that. They flail and blindly grope around, their arms reaching out for the ropes or the referees shoulders. Anything to support them up for a while longer.

Coming onto a football forum is precisely what I'd imagine I would do in a similar situation to The Fixer. I would also probably type soemthing out on Facebook. Phone a mate. I would be numb and acting erratically, immediately seeking out normality in a surreal nightmare.

Then - once I'd been to the hospital and reality began to hit home - you wouldnt hear from me again for quite some considerable time.

You may have a point there Lucky Toma. The day I lost my Dad(It was the 12th anniversary of his passing yesterday),me and my brother and a few others were stood outside my grans house remembering the funny things Dad came out with and laughed. To people in the house,it might have seemed disrespectful and uncaring but it just hadn't sank in that we'd lost him and it was almost like an act of defiance that he'd gone. Only a few weeks later,it was the play-off final and I remember feeling guilty about jumping around like a madman when I'd only recently my Dad.
Grief can do strange things. I've heard of plenty of instances of women who've lost their husbands and had sex with another man on the night of the funeral or the next day,not for any other reason than to feel closeness to somebody to compensate for the emotional void. You have to ask yourself why there was no coverage of the incident though Toma. An accident like that would make national news,never mind local.

Its....a strange situation I'll grant you. And the fact that many posters are, quite clearly reluctantly, showing suspicion does point to there being legitimate cause for doubt at the very least.

As for grief bud I've known people to answer the phone, hear about the death of a husband, and then their first thought is to finish washing up and tidying the house (because they knew people would shortly be calling around in sympathy).
You simply cannot quantify people's behavioral patterns during the first moments of grief. It is so far beyond the parameters of a normal circumstance that its actually irrational to expect rationality.

 

[Pigeonho]

You may have a point there Lucky Toma. The day I lost my Dad(It was the 12th anniversary of his passing yesterday),me and my brother and a few others were stood outside my grans house remembering the funny things Dad came out with and laughed. To people in the house,it might have seemed disrespectful and uncaring but it just hadn't sank in that we'd lost him and it was almost like an act of defiance that he'd gone. Only a few weeks later,it was the play-off final and I remember feeling guilty about jumping around like a madman when I'd only recently my Dad.
Grief can do strange things. I've heard of plenty of instances of women who've lost their husbands and had sex with another man on the night of the funeral or the next day,not for any other reason than to feel closeness to somebody to compensate for the emotional void. You have to ask yourself why there was no coverage of the incident though Toma. An accident like that would make national news,never mind local.

Its....a strange situation I'll grant you. And the fact that many posters are, quite clearly reluctantly, showing suspicion does point to there being legitimate cause for doubt at the very least.

As for grief bud I've known people to answer the phone, hear about the death of a husband, and then their first thought is to finish washing up and tidying the house (because they knew people would shortly be calling around in sympathy).
You simply cannot quantify people's behavioral patterns during the first moments of grief. It is so far beyond the parameters of a normal circumstance that its actually irrational to expect rationality.

I take the point about grief, to an extent. Totally different circumstances, but 'grief' all the same. When ex Mrs P left after 7 years, immediately after she walked out of the door I pulled the ironing board out and ironed every item of clothing my kids had, and then hung it all up in their wardrobes. No tears, nothing. Just ironing! Then as soon as that was done I went to fucking pieces! I know its not a death, but the element of loss is still there, and the odd behaviour afterwards.

 

[Lucky Toma]

I experienced something very similar Pidge. A week after it happened I was a mess. Literally just a complete mess.
Yet the night after it happened I went to a gig.
I look back now and it just doesnt make any sense whatsoever.

 

[2sheikhs]

I experienced something very similar Pidge. A week after it happened I was a mess. Literally just a complete mess.
Yet the night after it happened I went to a gig.
I look back now and it just doesnt make any sense whatsoever.

If we don't win the cup or finish in the top 4, your counselling skills may well be called upon.

 

[Lucky Toma]

I experienced something very similar Pidge. A week after it happened I was a mess. Literally just a complete mess.
Yet the night after it happened I went to a gig.
I look back now and it just doesnt make any sense whatsoever.

If we don't win the cup or finish in the top 4, your counselling skills may well be called upon.

Bwhahaha fuck that mate! I'll be one of the knee-jerkers upstairs calling for Bobby's head.

 

[cleavers]

Just to add some clarity on this, I was probably the last person on BM that heard from him. He sent me a PM at 11:16pm on Sun 13th Feb, which I still have, but I'm not going to repost.

Basically he asked me to take away all the threads about him, which I duly did, and he said he didn't want any financial help or contact from City. Finishing with he'd be back when he felt right. I posted a sticky about this at the time. I replied to him right away, but to this date my reply has remained unopened, and he has never logged back on.



None of us know the whole story, and its my opinion that its wrong to speculate either way about it.

The lack of press coverage means nothing, I know of a serious motorway crash resulting in a fatality, that never made any news coverage at all, despite the motorway in question being shut for several hours for investigation work. It means nothing.

 

[M18CTID]

Just to clarify, this happened a few hours after United beat us at theirs back in February - not after the CC Semi which was over a year earlier. It might be that some are getting mixed up with the earlier incident that Fixer posted about?

Anyway, I don't want to add too much to what has already been said - apart from the fact that a condolence thread appeared on Red Cafe's Newbies Forum hours after the news broke on here. There were plenty of decent comments on there but a couple of days later someone queried the authenticity of the story. At the time, I still thought it was genuine and didn't think anything of the lack of reporting in the media as these things can sometimes take a few days to come out in the press. As such, I went off on one at that particular red for his comments but now it seems it could've been fabricated after all. In a way, like many others, I hope it was because that would mean nobody had died but it would also mean that a hell of a lot of us have been suckered in and that Fixer probably needs to seek help.

 

[2sheikhs]

If we don't win the cup or finish in the top 4, your counselling skills may well be called upon.

Bwhahaha fuck that mate! I'll be one of the knee-jerkers upstairs calling for Bobby's head.

Well,ok then Toma,let's see how professional you are at being a trained counselor: I am a footballer in my 30s and after losing a match,I decided to attack a 20 year old boy for no reason. I then,along with my mates, damaged a dressing room and later that evening cried like a little woman about the events of the day on a social network site. Can you help me with my loss?

 

[Hartford]

This had to be made up we were all talking about it before a home game not long after...For me there's too many of these my dads sisters brothers auntie's cousins dog died today he used to walk round maine rd as a puppy and he was a big blue...RIP threads too many of them god knows what Liverpool forums are like....sorry if this upsets anyone but why you would want to go on forum and announce losing someone because you all follow the same team...