What would you do? (work related)

EastStandLower said:
jacko8684 said:
The best thing about this is that hes got his qualification regardless of the conditions, the games gonna pick back up soon.... But as of now, he may have to find a shitty pt job before xmas n start fresh in the new year.. I was abrickies apprentice, who now teaches apprentices...so its all worth it IN THE LONG RUN if he keeps his hand in.. PS, DID YOUR SON HAVE A TRAINING PROVIDER WHILE DOING HIS APPRENTICESHIP? EG, skills solution or CITB?

Yes he did a courses at mancat and a foundation level in Bolton before that. I'm sure there must be an advisor he can contact there. Maybe he could go into training? Thanks never thought of that!


Tell him to speak to his training advisor who would have visited him on site to get his site evidence.. They will know if hes been screwed over... And to me it sounds like he has. I hate it when bosses take the piss out of hard working lads by paying shite and not giving a toss. I see it a lot... GOOD LUCK 2 HIM
 
Unfortunately it's the way things are for a lot of tradesmen. I was laid off from my job soon after qualifying as a spark 20 years ago. In todays market most lads I know (including me) have been shat on in the last year or so.

Your son is best off out of it and he's young enough, and presumably 'chain free' enough to go it alone and get established. (by chain free I mean no real financial commitments like a big mortgage) I know it's shite and he feels hard done to and probably wants to kick the shit out of this tosser, but really the best thing he can is juts get out of it.

Good plasterers are sought after and will always make money. I wish him well.
 
kronkonite said:
A sticky of blues in trades (with links to happy customers)ought to be sorted by now


Kind of like a "Blue Pages".........I like this a lot, would much rather my hard earned money went into the hands of fellow blues
 
Can he skim a 17' room covered in artex-type stuff? If so PM me and he can give us a quote to get him started on that portfolio.
 
EastStandLower said:
My sons 20 and has just come out of his apprenticeship and now is a fully qualified plasterer (and a good one). His boss has been promising him proper wages as soon as his certificates come through. This week his paperwork arrived so he duly took them into work to get copied and a day later his boss has informed him that he is getting laid off on Friday.
Now his boss is a nasty little bastard and has constantly been pulling Ricks (my son) work on things like a window reveal being 1mm difference from one side to the other, a wall corner 2mm out over 3m that kind of thing. Asking him why he hasn't boarded a full house in 2 days, threatening to dock his wages if he has to put other people on a job to help him, not supplying him with a mixing whisk so he has to mix by hand. Making him buy his own buckets for mixing, Putting him in a school with the lights on a timer and expecting him to finish the job in the dark. Just basically winding him up and trying to make him walk. Fair play to Rick he's kept his head down been non confrontational and carrying on grafting his back out for a piss poor wage. (I'd of battered the guy with a 2 metre spirit level until he stopped twitching!)
I ve suggested he goes down to Citizens advice on friday and take all the printed evidence of his wage docks etc so they can give him professional advice on whether he can get some of the docked wages refunded and how he stands on a redundancy payment claim.
Rick obviously wants to cause this guy some grief and does have some dirt on him.
He owns and lives in a grade 2 listed building that he's renovated over the last couple of years. His internal walls have been boarded and skimmed instead of horse hair render, he's got 10 cubic of concrete in the floors and asbestos buried in his garden. I'm no expert on building regs but I'm pretty sure he's taken short cuts that are not within regulations.
His H & S on site is very poor, no toilets on site, all his vans are death traps and from what I ve heard his approach to a job with asbestos on site is appalling. A lot of the other trades that work for him have got kids and mortgages so don't complain as people who have suddenly find themselves laid off the reason being no work for you pal!
Is it worth all the hassle?
He probably wont get a reference anyway but I just see it as the big man against the little man and it will be a long drawn out saga not worth the effort.
He's going to struggle getting another job quickly before Xmas and the biggest stumbling block is he's not passed his driving test so that limits the area in which he can seek employment.
I feel really sorry for him and I am very angry, I ve spent the last couple of years seeing him come home from work exhausted and covered in shit after grafting his back out for a poor wage for this wanker and in return he lays him off right before Xmas. The best part is he has a guy who works for £100 a week (how he gets away with this I ve no idea?) and he has said to Rick if he is struggling he can offer him the same deal! WTF!

Is it time to get nasty?
Welcome to the building trade, shit happens!
 
Blumers Bloomers said:
Kind of like a "Blue Pages".........I like this a lot, would much rather my hard earned money went into the hands of fellow blues
Blue Pages. Great name.

Sorry to hear about your son's hardships. I'd agree that Rick is best off just forgetting about his boss for now. As said, he's qualified, sounds like a grafter and probably hasn't got too much holding him down financially yet. He'd be best off just earning enough to pay for keep at home, driving lessons and enough for his own personal pleasure, doing whatever he can find until he gets back in the trade.

When he gets his license the world is his oyster so I suppose that's his incentive. He's done the hard bit serving his apprenticeship despitehaving a prick of a boss. Things will only get better. Good luck to him.
 
it was a common trend to be released as soon as you qualified as Piston Blue said. the same happened to me. Sounds like your son is good at what he does.Tell him to have a word with the builders hes been working for as they will be aware of the quality of his work. Get some business cards made and speak to the lads who work in the builders merchants they will be able to give you some good contacts. Also dont look back as what he has done to him will make him a stronger person and the experience will serve him well. Good luck for the future.
 
There is a lot of modernisation going on in Wythenshawe on behalf of The Willow Park housing trust. The firm carrying it out is called Seddons, give them a ring. The work is usually done in pairs so a licence might not be necessary.
 

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