Having listened to the podcast I thought Ogden was on best behaviour. What I found surprising is how clueless both Mullock and Ogden were about Pep's tactics, inferring that he has one way to play. I can't believe either of them have taken the time to read Pep Confidential or, if they have mustn't have understood it. When asked the pertinent question about bias he claimed that he wasn't, that fans of all clubs are the same claiming that reporters are biased against them, and Mullock backed him up. Thought the presenter let him off and didn't point out that most of articles about the rags are positive and City negative.