The Fat el Hombre
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urmston said:
Yea, the last thing we want is all the best players around the world playing in the premwhere we can go and watch them in the flesh on a regular basis...
Bring back lee crooks
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Yea, the last thing we want is all the best players around the world playing in the premwhere we can go and watch them in the flesh on a regular basis...
Bring back lee crooks
spacecadet
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How very trueThe Fat el Hombre said:urmston said:All the foreign players in the premiership make the competition more like a world league that just happens to be played in England rather than an English league.
Yea, the last thing we want is all the best players around the world playing in the premwhere we can go and watch them in the flesh on a regular basis...
Bring back lee crooks
I've felt the same for the last couple of seasons. I will undoubtably renew again next season, more out of habit than anything.
I dont get the same buzz I used to going to the match. I dont spend Sat night to tuesday thinking about the match gone and then weds to Sat looking forward to the next one. Its a number of things I suppose, the cost and feeling totally removed from people earning more in a week than I do in 3 years for doing less work!!
This season is the first i've missed matches out of choice (2 of the uefa games). I would have had to go straight from work, and I couldnt be arsed. Real life things have gradually taken over in my life, and spending time and money on my little girl is no1 on my list at the minute.
I hope I get the buzz back.
I dont get the same buzz I used to going to the match. I dont spend Sat night to tuesday thinking about the match gone and then weds to Sat looking forward to the next one. Its a number of things I suppose, the cost and feeling totally removed from people earning more in a week than I do in 3 years for doing less work!!
This season is the first i've missed matches out of choice (2 of the uefa games). I would have had to go straight from work, and I couldnt be arsed. Real life things have gradually taken over in my life, and spending time and money on my little girl is no1 on my list at the minute.
I hope I get the buzz back.
goat boy
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TINY said:I personally think this is the City mentality. Some people would rather be supporting the Roslers, Goaters, Horlocks, Morrisons etc and be struggling against relegation or in Div 1 rather than doing what Liverpool, United or Chelsea do. We feel comfortable down there, we can claim we're a sleeping giant, we can claim we have the best fans in the world because, dispite being shit, we're still here.
I think you've neatly encapsulated something there. The perfect fantasy for years upon years, was the dream of one day seeing City give you something actual worth cheering about, while you're stoically sticking it out down amongst the dead men at the wrong end of the table.
Then the buggers (latterly) ruin your fantasy by threatening to actually go and do it. 'Wheres the fun in that?'
For me though, I think I'll see them lift a cup, before I die. I'll take that, I will.
The Fat el Hombre
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dukyblue said:I've felt the same for the last couple of seasons. I will undoubtably renew again next season, more out of habit than anything.
I think some of you guys are getting old!
PowderBlue
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Is about money IMO. What i mean is money seems to have taken loyalty away from players - they will go anywhere for a bigger salary. Consequently they dont give the impression of having passion about the shirt. This is why we still love Dunny even now he's fading and remember fondly people like Andy Morrison who would spill blood for the club.
The Fat el Hombre said:dukyblue said:I've felt the same for the last couple of seasons. I will undoubtably renew again next season, more out of habit than anything.
I think some of you guys are getting old!
Well, i did hit 30 a few weeks ago...!!!
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Supporting this club has been a rollercoaster ever since the very first days. Just look at the bribe scandal after we won the FA Cup in 1904 and all our players were banned - to be subsequently snapped up by the Rags! Just look at winning the league only to be relegated the following season. Just look at us having to stand there with our faces pressed up against the sweet shop window whilst the Rags went on and bought all the best toffees. But then our fairygodmother waved a wand and we became rich beyond our wildest dreams. It's what we do.
I had this conversation on Wednesday night in Copenhagen. I didn't want to mention it on here in case it went down the wrong way, but no-one seems to have been hounded out for saying so, so I'll summarise what I said.
Basically, the bloke asked first off whether we're going to do anything now we're owned by the Arabs. I flatly came out and said "no". I explained that the 'successful' clubs, namely the top 4 have a culture of success. It's inbred into the them. You hear about how that's not the behaviour a xxxx player, or that's no the way we do things. City have never had that culture, and I can't see how we can get it.
It's a company/organisation culture, which is hard to change. Look at City. In the past ten years we've had Bernstein, Wardle, Shiniwatra and now Kaldoon as Chairman. We've had 5 managers and countless players come in and out of the door. None of them have managed to change the way we completely fuck thing up. We did it ten years ago and we did it against Forest this season. It's what we have always done and we will always do it. Look at us, we have the richest owners in the world, and we still fuck things up whenever and wherever possible.
And I said to him, if we ever change doing that, I'd lose interest. I'd hate to be an Everton fan, absolutely nothing happens there. Nothing at all. They're the only club never to have been relegated from the top division of English football in their history. Year on year, they tick along. Boring as hell.
Then you look at us, every year there's a crisis, a new manger, new owner, etc. It's fantastic.
I think a lot of people are worried that we could become successful, and things will become stale.
Don't get me wrong, I would be on power wanks all summer if we won the UEFA Cup this year, or won a trophy soon. But once we'd paraded it, stuck it in the trophy cabinet, admired it for a bit I'd want the cabinet to fall off the wall and us to go back to our usual ways of being interesting, the likeable underachievers and the rollercoaster that we love. A trophy every so often would maintain the raison d'etre!!!
I was fairly pissed, and thought he was going to laugh at me. And do you know what he said after my rant? He said "That is the most sensible football conversation I have ever had with a football fan. You speak sense".
There you go. I speak sense. Now all gather round whilst I tell you about my plans for overhauling the UK legal system....
Basically, the bloke asked first off whether we're going to do anything now we're owned by the Arabs. I flatly came out and said "no". I explained that the 'successful' clubs, namely the top 4 have a culture of success. It's inbred into the them. You hear about how that's not the behaviour a xxxx player, or that's no the way we do things. City have never had that culture, and I can't see how we can get it.
It's a company/organisation culture, which is hard to change. Look at City. In the past ten years we've had Bernstein, Wardle, Shiniwatra and now Kaldoon as Chairman. We've had 5 managers and countless players come in and out of the door. None of them have managed to change the way we completely fuck thing up. We did it ten years ago and we did it against Forest this season. It's what we have always done and we will always do it. Look at us, we have the richest owners in the world, and we still fuck things up whenever and wherever possible.
And I said to him, if we ever change doing that, I'd lose interest. I'd hate to be an Everton fan, absolutely nothing happens there. Nothing at all. They're the only club never to have been relegated from the top division of English football in their history. Year on year, they tick along. Boring as hell.
Then you look at us, every year there's a crisis, a new manger, new owner, etc. It's fantastic.
I think a lot of people are worried that we could become successful, and things will become stale.
Don't get me wrong, I would be on power wanks all summer if we won the UEFA Cup this year, or won a trophy soon. But once we'd paraded it, stuck it in the trophy cabinet, admired it for a bit I'd want the cabinet to fall off the wall and us to go back to our usual ways of being interesting, the likeable underachievers and the rollercoaster that we love. A trophy every so often would maintain the raison d'etre!!!
I was fairly pissed, and thought he was going to laugh at me. And do you know what he said after my rant? He said "That is the most sensible football conversation I have ever had with a football fan. You speak sense".
There you go. I speak sense. Now all gather round whilst I tell you about my plans for overhauling the UK legal system....
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I understand what everyone is eluding to, but in essence its change! People don't feel comfortable with change, out of their comfort zone.
We have not been a succesful club since the early 70's in terms of silverware.
However that in some twisted way is why I AM CTID, hang on tight
We have not been a succesful club since the early 70's in terms of silverware.
However that in some twisted way is why I AM CTID, hang on tight