When Is The Club Going To Stop Selling Tickets In The Home End To Away Fans?

[Stephen Ireland's pants]

I see people are saying the stewards did fuck all, well the steward on my block is usually a student, 10 stone wet through, probably on minimum wage, anyone who expects these kids to step in the line of fire are naive, I am with you, it’s on the club

Ironically in the corporate areas they have professional security. Last time I was in the legends lounge, one of them threatened to throw us out for singing.

 

[adopted_manc]

If a fan gets hurt in a fracas involving away fans in the home stands I don't see how the club isn't liable; they must have a duty of care and they seem to very visibly breach their own security policies on a regular basis. Might take someone suing the club to make them pay attention, they wouldn't win given the mismatched resources but might generate enough publicity to make them take it seriously.

In terms of legal fees, this will be a drop in the ocean for the club, compared to all the rest.

Don't get my sarcasm wrong... I also think they have a duty of care and are doing nothing about it.

 

[EastStandLower]

I've seen more and more that the club don't give a fuck about our loyal support ever since the introduction of selling loyalty points with season tickets. That was so wrong on the club's part and morally wrong of everyone who paid extra to gain (not earn) loyalty points.

Against Celtic in the group stage, I attempted to buy tickets with my long term membership. The lad on the phone said there was a fault and I'd have to open a new membership account which I did and bought the tickets. When I got to the turnstiles, my tickets were refused so I went to the ticket office to be told that my tickets had been cancelled due to having no ticket purchase history. I was told, and I quote, that I was "a security risk".

Luckily, my Dad wasn't at the game and I was able to move to another window and buy tickets on his account. I made my way through groups of Celtic fans who were abusive to City fans and openly singing IRA songs and got in the ground about 10 minutes after kick off. When Celtic scored, pockets of the scruffs were jumping up and celebrating all around us.

Against Young Boys, we all saw the firework display. It was ridiculous that a group of supporters were able to get that amount of pyros into the stadium. My daughter was almost hit by a coin thrown from the away end. A boy of around 9/10 was hit in the ribs by a coin. An elderly gent was taken out with blood pouring from a cut on his head where a coin had hit him. He was the only person I saw escorted out of the stadium.

Against Copenhagen, me and my lad were stood near the away fans. They were holding their phones up with pictures of oil cans on them, throwing coins and spitting over the segregation. Me and the lad responded by holding up our phones with pictures of Brondby's badge on. A police officer immediately came to tell us that if we did anything else to incite the away fans, we'd be thrown out and banned. My lad tried to reason and asked if Copenhagen fans were allowed to throw objects, spit at us and do the same thing that we were doing. The copper replied "They don't want to watch the next match here but you do."

Last night, we were about 6 seats away from where the trouble started in block 111. A Feyenoord fan outed himself when they scored their first. A young City fan confronted him (OTT in my opinion) and wouldn't let it go until the Dutch bloke moved. I might be wrong but it looked like an older City fan went over to try and resolve the situation and it seemed like he would be allowed to climb over into the away end. As he stood on a seat, he appeared to slip and the young blue and a few others threw a couple of digs at him. That sparked the away end into action and they stormed the police line almost breaking through it a number of times.

By now, coins, lighters, vapes, lagers, seats and other objects were being thrown into 111 constantly. I saw a Feyenoord fan stood on his seat showing a City fan two miniature bottles and telling them he was going to throw them into 111. He stayed on his seat whilst he necked one of the bottles - a whisky miniature. One of his cronies spent part of the first half stood on his seat openly drinking lager and smoking a large joint. My eldest lad was hit by two vapes and my younger lad hit by a pound coin. We just about dodged 3 fifty pence coins so could barely look away from them for our own safety.

I went down to a steward and a police officer about the glass bottles and pointed out the fan who had them. The police officer radioed someone but fuck all was done.

The safety of City fans is being compromised almost on a weekly basis and until someone is seriously hurt, not a finger will be lifted to change it.

The club don't give a single fuck. They will continue to charge us as much as they think is possible to wring out of us. The ticket office will continue to be a clusterfuck. Season tickets will be phased out in a constant quest to find "supporters" who are likely to spend more. Fanzone fucking Danny will continue to patronise fellow blues because "I'm alright Jack", away tickets will continue to be sold to people who have never attended a City match.

I'd dearly love to see our fans boycott a cup match and put fuck all into the coffers. Let those in charge see what they are doing. Piss poor gate receipts and really empty stands. I'd love to see this done nationwide but it won't happen because unlike German football fans, we are a nation who bends over and spreads their collective arse cheeks.

Are you going to contact the club regarding this?
MCFC's supporter charter states:
"We are dedicated to ensuring that everyone in our care or attending our activities feels safe and free from harm.
The Club takes safeguarding very seriously and is committed to creating a safe and positive environment for
everyone."
Maybe if enough people contacted the club/supporter reps it would be highlighted?
I don't know how MCFC can think this is acceptable?

 

[adopted_manc]

Wouldn't it be better if everybody could just grow up and tolerate people supporting another club? I go to many games in Germany and see away fans in home ends all the time without there being a problem.

I don't think it's about growing up.

It's about complying with the rules that the club is setting. At the moment, they say no tickets sold to away fans in home ends. If the club facilitate this, they're not complying with the rules. And, if something bad happens, they would be liable.

 

[mexico1970]

Wouldn't it be better if everybody could just grow up and tolerate people supporting another club? I go to many games in Germany and see away fans in home ends all the time without there being a problem.

This is from Dortmund.

Can away fans sit in home end at Dortmund?


"The stadium opens 90 minutes before kick-off. The away sector is located in the “Leazes Stand”. Away fans can access the away block via turnstiles/entrances 89-94. Please note that away fans are not allowed in the home sections."

It isn't normal for a club to sell tickets to away fans in the home seats, in fact I would say it isn't normal anywhere. Away fans in home seats jumping up and down isn't tolerated and they should be ejected.

As for there aren't enough stewards or that the stewards are too young? Employ bigger and more stewards and actually provide a duty of care to the fans you fleeced for the tickets.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Is this the area they have to give to the away team for UEFA matches? or is that the other side of the ground?

"Premium seating in between the 18 yard box and the half way line" might explain it?

I got in the ground early last night and about 7:30ish a pissed Feyenoord fan turned up in 314/315, identified by waving his scarf everywhere (wasn't even half and half) and talking to the away end and other blues.

To be fair to the stewards as soon as they saw him they called for the stewards in the bright yellow to remove him which they did within 5/10 minutes. The issue was, given I and everyone else had to undo my coat when being searched to get in last night, how was someone that pissed with a Feyenoord scarf on (and i doubt he was being subtle about it) allowed in?

I’m not sure mate. I think a group of Feyenord fans in neighbouring blocks were relocated into their blocks in South Stand L3

 

[levets]

They sold out, they all squeeze together, and they got 2700 tickets not 3100

BBC match report ridiculously quoted 5,000 Feyenoord fans. Wasn’t half that.

 

[BungleBear]

This is from Dortmund.

Can away fans sit in home end at Dortmund?


"The stadium opens 90 minutes before kick-off. The away sector is located in the “Leazes Stand”. Away fans can access the away block via turnstiles/entrances 89-94. Please note that away fans are not allowed in the home sections."

It isn't normal for a club to sell tickets to away fans in the home seats, in fact I would say it isn't normal anywhere. Away fans in home seats jumping up and down isn't tolerated and they should be ejected.

As for there aren't enough stewards or that the stewards are too young? Employ bigger and more stewards and actually provide a duty of care to the fans you fleeced for the tickets.

When we played Schalke away in 2008 there were a lot of visible City fans the home sections either side of the away corner, and they were not treated badly.

 

[mexico1970]

When we played Schalke away in 2008 there were a lot of visible City fans the home sections either side of the away corner, and they were not treated badly.

Trouble doesn't happen ALL the time but it does happen, clubs should mitigate this by sticking to their own rules.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I've seen more and more that the club don't give a fuck about our loyal support ever since the introduction of selling loyalty points with season tickets. That was so wrong on the club's part and morally wrong of everyone who paid extra to gain (not earn) loyalty points.

Against Celtic in the group stage, I attempted to buy tickets with my long term membership. The lad on the phone said there was a fault and I'd have to open a new membership account which I did and bought the tickets. When I got to the turnstiles, my tickets were refused so I went to the ticket office to be told that my tickets had been cancelled due to having no ticket purchase history. I was told, and I quote, that I was "a security risk".

Luckily, my Dad wasn't at the game and I was able to move to another window and buy tickets on his account. I made my way through groups of Celtic fans who were abusive to City fans and openly singing IRA songs and got in the ground about 10 minutes after kick off. When Celtic scored, pockets of the scruffs were jumping up and celebrating all around us.

Against Young Boys, we all saw the firework display. It was ridiculous that a group of supporters were able to get that amount of pyros into the stadium. My daughter was almost hit by a coin thrown from the away end. A boy of around 9/10 was hit in the ribs by a coin. An elderly gent was taken out with blood pouring from a cut on his head where a coin had hit him. He was the only person I saw escorted out of the stadium.

Against Copenhagen, me and my lad were stood near the away fans. They were holding their phones up with pictures of oil cans on them, throwing coins and spitting over the segregation. Me and the lad responded by holding up our phones with pictures of Brondby's badge on. A police officer immediately came to tell us that if we did anything else to incite the away fans, we'd be thrown out and banned. My lad tried to reason and asked if Copenhagen fans were allowed to throw objects, spit at us and do the same thing that we were doing. The copper replied "They don't want to watch the next match here but you do."

Last night, we were about 6 seats away from where the trouble started in block 111. A Feyenoord fan outed himself when they scored their first. A young City fan confronted him (OTT in my opinion) and wouldn't let it go until the Dutch bloke moved. I might be wrong but it looked like an older City fan went over to try and resolve the situation and it seemed like he would be allowed to climb over into the away end. As he stood on a seat, he appeared to slip and the young blue and a few others threw a couple of digs at him. That sparked the away end into action and they stormed the police line almost breaking through it a number of times.

By now, coins, lighters, vapes, lagers, seats and other objects were being thrown into 111 constantly. I saw a Feyenoord fan stood on his seat showing a City fan two miniature bottles and telling them he was going to throw them into 111. He stayed on his seat whilst he necked one of the bottles - a whisky miniature. One of his cronies spent part of the first half stood on his seat openly drinking lager and smoking a large joint. My eldest lad was hit by two vapes and my younger lad hit by a pound coin. We just about dodged 3 fifty pence coins so could barely look away from them for our own safety.

I went down to a steward and a police officer about the glass bottles and pointed out the fan who had them. The police officer radioed someone but fuck all was done.

The safety of City fans is being compromised almost on a weekly basis and until someone is seriously hurt, not a finger will be lifted to change it.

The club don't give a single fuck. They will continue to charge us as much as they think is possible to wring out of us. The ticket office will continue to be a clusterfuck. Season tickets will be phased out in a constant quest to find "supporters" who are likely to spend more. Fanzone fucking Danny will continue to patronise fellow blues because "I'm alright Jack", away tickets will continue to be sold to people who have never attended a City match.

I'd dearly love to see our fans boycott a cup match and put fuck all into the coffers. Let those in charge see what they are doing. Piss poor gate receipts and really empty stands. I'd love to see this done nationwide but it won't happen because unlike German football fans, we are a nation who bends over and spreads their collective arse cheeks.

Well said mate. The club couldn’t care less. Someone’s going to get seriously hurt