kaz7
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Ha i'm going to hell
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When you die, are you really dead ?
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Blue Maverick
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Fair enough I just don’t believe in any of it and I think it’s used to control the masses, I have to attend church on a Sunday to get my daughter into school and I just sit there thinking if this had been invented 20/40 years ago they’d say it was a cult like Waco.It is possible to have a belief system and also to enjoy your life. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Adidas Sharston
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I agree with Christopher Hitchens but still respect everyones views.
The body dies but the soul lives on.
evidence mate not soundbites
an interesting read
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318464.php#1
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01cravend
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There definitely more to the universe and life that our senses allow us to experience. But once the curtain comes down and our brain fades to black. There is no encore or second act, our exsistence continues only in the memories of the living and now whatever digital footprint we leave behind.
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There’s nothing particularly special about humans.
We aren’t big, fast, strong, we live an average to low lifespan (some fish and sea mammals live for hundreds of years, some trees for thousands), our hearing/sight/smell is poor, we can’t change colour or shape, we have no sonar, we have no venom or poison for protection...
Basically the only thing about our species is that our brains are fairly intelligent in relation to other Great Apes. However we also lack huge amounts of intelligence that even our hunter gatherer ancestors had as we are ruining the planet.
With our so called intelligence we have basically become a parasite to our host.
We will ruin that host eventually and all die out and the world will take a few hundred or thousand years to recover and there’ll be little sign we ever existed.
To think that a parasite gets an afterlife is as fanciful as it is stupid.
We aren’t big, fast, strong, we live an average to low lifespan (some fish and sea mammals live for hundreds of years, some trees for thousands), our hearing/sight/smell is poor, we can’t change colour or shape, we have no sonar, we have no venom or poison for protection...
Basically the only thing about our species is that our brains are fairly intelligent in relation to other Great Apes. However we also lack huge amounts of intelligence that even our hunter gatherer ancestors had as we are ruining the planet.
With our so called intelligence we have basically become a parasite to our host.
We will ruin that host eventually and all die out and the world will take a few hundred or thousand years to recover and there’ll be little sign we ever existed.
To think that a parasite gets an afterlife is as fanciful as it is stupid.
Bigga
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Er, yep.. i think consciousness requires a brain, and when it dies the lights go out
Highly disputed statement especially if you mean in general!
If you're talking about a Human Being then the light goes out when the brain dies, yes.
Consciousness is an entirely separate subject. You may communicate with another Human face to face or digitally, but there's not empirical proof you have consciousness except your own validation.
"Cogito, ergo sum" is subjective to you, only.
One cannot scientifically prove consciousness ceases to exist in a form as one cannot test it.
Bill
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Better had be life, i have a list as long as your arm i want to haunt. I might be dead but i could still have fun :)
Highly disputed statement especially if you mean in general!
If you're talking about a Human Being then the light goes out when the brain dies, yes.
Consciousness is an entirely separate subject. You may communicate with another Human face to face or digitally, but there's not empirical proof you have consciousness except your own validation.
"Cogito, ergo sum" is subjective to you, only.
One cannot scientifically prove consciousness ceases to exist in a form as one cannot test it.
nor that it does continue either so the correct answer is we don't know
MellowJoe
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Highly disputed statement especially if you mean in general!
If you're talking about a Human Being then the light goes out when the brain dies, yes.
Consciousness is an entirely separate subject. You may communicate with another Human face to face or digitally, but there's not empirical proof you have consciousness except your own validation.
"Cogito, ergo sum" is subjective to you, only.
One cannot scientifically prove consciousness ceases to exist in a form as one cannot test it.
I agree, and i didnt state it was a fact, it just appears to be the case.. but yes we cant disprove solipsism or P-zombies or whathaveyou, though i think consciousness is emergent and not just there always