Where are we?

At the moment we have 6 points more than I thought we would have at this stage of the season. I have us down to win our remaining games in 2011, so any dropped points in those games may see it level out. I hope not, though. If somebody offered me 7 points from our trips to Spurs, United, Liverpool and Chelsea I'd have snapped their hands off. To be fair, if somebody said we'd be in such a good position after 15 games I wouldn't have believed them having seen our fixtures, especially the 6 away games after each Champions League game.

Overall I am ecstatic with where we are.
 
87 may not be enough. The bottom teams this year are doing badly.

In 08/09 90 points to win and 18 and 19 were 34 and 32 points.

In 05/06 91 points to win and 18 and 19 were 34 and 30 points

In 04/05 950 points to win and 18 and 19 were 33 and 33 points

What we need to do is continue playing well. We have played all of likely top teams bar Arsenal away. If we match the first 30 mins in our other games....

We just have to hope for no serious injuries and that other Comps do not wear us down
 
Bluephoria said:
87 may not be enough. The bottom teams this year are doing badly.

In 08/09 90 points to win and 18 and 19 were 34 and 32 points.

In 05/06 91 points to win and 18 and 19 were 34 and 30 points

In 04/05 950 points to win and 18 and 19 were 33 and 33 points

What we need to do is continue playing well. We have played all of likely top teams bar Arsenal away. If we match the first 30 mins in our other games....

We just have to hope for no serious injuries and that other Comps do not wear us down
04/05 was some year
 
Where are we? Clearly struggling!
I reckon we need 90 points for safety, bearing in mind the 50 point reduction we face for having too much debt, which comes into force alongside regulation FFPR 6-1/6-1/6-1 (a) - '....teams thrashing MUFC more than 5-1 at Old Trafford will be subject to a mandatory 50 point deduction on May 1st 2012....'
 
simonr555 said:
At the moment we have 6 points more than I thought we would have at this stage of the season. I have us down to win our remaining games in 2011, so any dropped points in those games may see it level out. I hope not, though. If somebody offered me 7 points from our trips to Spurs, United, Liverpool and Chelsea I'd have snapped their hands off. To be fair, if somebody said we'd be in such a good position after 15 games I wouldn't have believed them having seen our fixtures, especially the 6 away games after each Champions League game.

Overall I am ecstatic with where we are.

We've actually got 8 points more than I thought we'd have, and there's only the Fulham game where we've got less points than I predicted from a game.
 
I hoped we'd get a point at Spurs, Old Trafford, Anfield and Stamford Bridge. They are the most important so far, and we've got 7 points instead of the acceptable 4 which I would have taken before the season started. We dropped 2 at Fulham but got a bonus 2 at home against Everton, who usually beat us - again, pre season, I would have settled for a draw against Everton - our bogey team.

Sitting top, 2 points clear with all the big boys to come at home, is fantastic.
If we can take 6 points from our next 2 games at home to Arsenal and Stoke, that'll be all the way to Christmas with only 1 defeat, and 7 points dropped which will be
UN-BE-LIEVABLE JEFF!
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I've been keeping a spreadsheet for this season, keeping track of how we're doing against various criteria and thought after last night might be a good time to share it.

I started with the premise that, based on analysis of the last few seasons, we might need 87 points to win the title, 52 at home and 35 away. That gave an average points per game (ppg) requirement of 2.74 at home and 1.84 away. So far, we should be on just under 34 points and we actually have 38 so we're 4 points ahead of target and therefore potentially on for 91 points as things stand.

Looking at the 35 away points, we've already got 17 of those so need 6 wins from 11 games (which include trips to Wigan, Sunderland, West Brom, Villa, Norwich, Wolves, Swansea, Stoke & Everton, as well as Arsenal & Newcastle) to make that 35 point target. Any points more than that will obviously offset any we might lose at home as, according to my model, we can only drop 5.


In addition, I've also measured the points gained compared to the equivalent game last season, with the games against the promoted clubs being compared to the ones against the relegated clubs last season. On that measure, we're still 9 points ahead based on the equivalent games.

So although last night was a disappointment, we're still well on track on every measure. If I changed the ppg required so that it was skewed between top and bottom half teams, then we'd probably be even more comfortable.

Reading this has made me feel so much better after last night. No reason why we can't achieve this. Hats off to you PB!
 
You can do all the stats you want & try & work out what points we will get from what teams..

Means fuck all.

It will be all about whos got the bottle & bollocks come 2nd half of the season!
 

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