Where have all the police gone?

paulchapo said:
Out of interest which small town do you live in? It's still not easy to find out where somebody lives through their car. If you had the registration and the make and colour of the car you might and it's a big might, walk past a house and spot that very car parked outside but it's a slim chance that's going to happen. A determined thug would just sit outside a station and follow somebody home if they really wanted to do harm.

Every job where you come into contact with the public you face that risk and threat. From a shop worker confronting a shoplifter to a doorman on a nightclub. They must get numerous threats every weekend from punters.

I lived in two very small places, Hollyhead in Anglesey and Dover in Kent and don't recollect any incidents of a police officer being attacked at home.
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I’ve already said I have personal experience of officers being threatened and on occasion assaulted off duty by people that recognise them. Therefore it’s not a huge leap to suggest their privacy should be protected as much as possible.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Police officers very seldom live in the immediate area they Police and I doubt even the simplest cop who Polices a small town would choose to live there. They would only recognise their cars if they went home in a car with day-glo yellow decals and POLICE written on the sides....possibly also with a lightbar on the roof. I'd like to get 30 cars of varying makes and models 5 of which were officers personal cars and have you identify 5 in 5 guesses with the give away signs that told you. A Skoda Octavia is a Skoda Octavia regardless of the drivers occupation.

People I know who work in customer facing roles has had that and worse. I know people who work security in shops or are just shop workers in the shops who have been punched full on in the face and they don't have a pepper spray a baton or a badge to use.

Not sure what you mean by publishing personal details on line? I have never seen a copper when asked to identify themselves go further than name, collar number and rank ( even then not always all of that ) so not sure how you discern from that their home address. Of course you could ban the sale of Ring door bells to home owners who live near officers and their families and ban dash cams from being operated on the streets where they live.

The threat you describe only exists if they are followed home or by persons acting using far more sophisticated surveillance techniques than standing outside a police station filming with a mobile phone.........
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I stopped reading after the first sentence-plenty of officers live in the area they police.
 
bert38 said:
No I don’t think we are-what I’m referring to is those kind of videos increase the likelihood that officers will be identified by the types of people I mention. And even on a more moderate scale police don’t have many rights, at the very least they should be free to go about their job free from annoyance and harassment.
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You need to lobby Govt to make it illegal then if it's that much of a problem. Reacting the way officers do now is not helping.
 
bert38 said:
I’ve already said I have personal experience of officers being threatened and on occasion assaulted off duty by people that recognise them. Therefore it’s not a huge leap to suggest their privacy should be protected as much as possible.
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Sorry but I call bollocks. You said numerous examples. Now you either have a large number of friends who happen to be police officers or are in the police yourself. If it's the former then your friends must be the unluckiest police officers in the force as they all suffer this crime. If the latter then again your town or City must be the unluckiest in the country. The full weight of the law would come down on such a crime as it threatens democracy itself. As such instances of this happening would be big news, even if they happened in a rural hamlet. Most criminals play the game. They accept being nicked is part of it and bear no animosity. They also know to go down that route would mean a whole heap of shit following them around as every officer in that area would be permanently on their case.
 
paulchapo said:
Sorry but I call bollocks. You said numerous examples. Now you either have a large number of friends who happen to be police officers or are in the police yourself. If it's the former then your friends must be the unluckiest police officers in the force as they all suffer this crime. If the latter then again your town or City must be the unluckiest in the country. The full weight of the law would come down on such a crime as it threatens democracy itself. As such instances of this happening would be big news, even if they happened in a rural hamlet. Most criminals play the game. They accept being nicked is part of it and bear no animosity. They also know to go down that route would mean a whole heap of shit following them around as every officer in that area would be permanently on their case.
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I’m sorry where does your wealth of knowledge come from?
 
paulchapo said:
Sorry but I call bollocks. You said numerous examples. Now you either have a large number of friends who happen to be police officers or are in the police yourself. If it's the former then your friends must be the unluckiest police officers in the force as they all suffer this crime. If the latter then again your town or City must be the unluckiest in the country. The full weight of the law would come down on such a crime as it threatens democracy itself. As such instances of this happening would be big news, even if they happened in a rural hamlet. Most criminals play the game. They accept being nicked is part of it and bear no animosity. They also know to go down that route would mean a whole heap of shit following them around as every officer in that area would be permanently on their case.
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Bert’s an ex copper. He’ll likely know lots of police officers and have been told many tales of what has happened to officers all round the country.
 
bert38 said:
Harassment and public order offences can apply in these circumstances already.
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How are these so called auditors who get arrested end up suing the police then?
and why can't officers react the same way to the kids in Chorley getting their heads stamped on?
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Bert’s an ex copper. He’ll likely know lots of police officers and have been told many tales of what has happened to officers all round the country.
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If so that adds more weight to the bones. I still don't believe it's as common as he makes out. Verbal threats from a drunk/drugged up morons being arrested that are rarely followed up I would agree plenty. Assaults while arresting such morons, again plenty. Actual vindictive targeting of individual officers as a grudge I would say is rare not common.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Bert’s an ex copper. He’ll likely know lots of police officers and have been told many tales of what has happened to officers all round the country.
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Thousands. But it’s more so from officers I have managed over the years that have been threatened/assaulted off duty simply because of the job they do. Of course it’s rare that somebody goes out of their way to have and undertake a personal vendetta against an officer, but it does happen.
 
malg said:
In A&E looking after pissheads and people with alleged mental health issues, being royally abused by all of them.
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That's another job I wouldn't want. The police is the same. A lot of the time you're dealing with the dregs of society at their worse, full of drink and drugs and as a result violent and abusive.
 
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