Who do you want to get relegated & why?

Don’t really care but Forest have done well and deserve to stay up.
 
Debaser said:
Leeds, forest and anyone else. Can't stand the "they were big in the 70s and 80s so should always be in the top league"
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I've never understood that argument, and never will. "Oh; x, y or z deserve to be in the Premier league more so than (for example) Bournemouth or Brentford, as they're a far bigger club, with more fans and a bigger stadium". What the fuck does the size of a club have to do with where they" deserve to be"? Bottom line; it's what the team does on the pitch that governs where they "belong". Unless people are suggesting that only BIG clubs deserve to be in the Premier League. Which is clearly bullshit.
 
I'd love Utd, Liverpool and Spurs but being realistic, i'll go for Leeds, Leeds and Leeds
 
jimharri said:
I've never understood that argument, and never will. "Oh; x, y or z deserve to be in the Premier league more so than (for example) Bournemouth or Brentford, as they're a far bigger club, with more fans and a bigger stadium". What the fuck does the size of a club have to do with where they" deserve to be"? Bottom line; it's what the team does on the pitch that governs where they "belong". Unless people are suggesting that only BIG clubs deserve to be in the Premier League. Which is clearly bullshit.
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And it completely ignores or is historically unaware that these ‘big’ clubs haven’t always been big clubs.

If football had just kept the big boys at the top since it’s inception, the trophies would always be contested by and the Champions League would always be played in by Old Etonians, Royal Engineers, Wanderers and Oxford University.

Christ, Scottish club Queens Park had played in more English FA Cup finals by 1885 than all current 92 professional English clubs apart from Blackburn Rovers.

By the outbreak of WW1 Sunderland had challenged for the First Division title 12 times. It took United until 1965 and Liverpool until 1972 to get to that level.

By this ‘traditional big club’ rights, the top of the Premier League should look nothing like it does. The PL in general would be this 20:
Old Etonians
Wanderers
Royal Engineers
Oxford University
Blackburn Olympic
Blackburn Rovers
Queens Park of Glasgow
West Bromwich Albion
Sunderland
Preston North End
Everton
Aston Villa
Notts County
Wolverhampton Wanderers
Clapham Rovers
The Wednesday
Sheffield United
Derby County
Old Carthusians
Bury

Manchester would still be a rugby city and maybe Everton could have afforded to stay at Anfield and there’d never have been a ‘Liverpool FC’ formed.
 
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