Who is in charge our of transfers?

[Damocles]

Weird this, every time I've seen Mancini and Hughes before him question about a player, they always seem to say "well, I haven't spoken to him, not sure about the club, but he's a good player". Mancini's just said the same about Boateng in the pre match press conference. Who made the decision to buy Johnson, and now Boateng?

Have we switched to a Real Madrid type model, whereby the coach brings in the players he identifies, but also the club bring in talent they think is good value?

I've never heard this actually answered by anyone, everybody just seems to guess and say that it MUST be Cooke/Marwood, or it MUST be Mancini.

Brennan, ask the question lad!

 

[Anonymous]

Weird this, every time I've seen Mancini and Hughes before him question about a player, they always seem to say "well, I haven't spoken to him, not sure about the club, but he's a good player". Mancini's just said the same about Boateng in the pre match press conference. Who made the decision to buy Johnson, and now Boateng?

Have we switched to a Real Madrid type model, whereby the coach brings in the players he identifies, but also the club bring in talent they think is good value?

I've never heard this actually answered by anyone, everybody just seems to guess and say that it MUST be Cooke/Marwood, or it MUST be Mancini.

Brennan, ask the question lad!

It's done by committee - and I'm certain this has been confirmed by Mancini recently. Marwood, Mancini, and technical director Mike Rigg confer on which positions need to be strengthened, and then it's down to Rigg and Marwood to identify targets, bring them to the manager, then sign them.

It's much closer to the Real Madrid or Barcelona style than the autocratic way in which United and Arsenal are run...

 

[True_Blue69]

Im sure it will be Mancini that has the final say. Every club has scouts etc that recommend players but Id imagine its unusual for a manager not to make the final decision.

He isnt gonna come out and say yes we are going to bid for him cos then everyone else will be alerted to it, plus it may be classed as tapping them up maybe?

 

[mackenzie]

Paper today says Johnson (for example) was recommended to Mancini by the coaching staff and then he watched some DVD's of him. Then he said yes.

 

[Damocles]

It's done by committee - and I'm certain this has been confirmed by Mancini recently. Marwood, Mancini, and technical director Mike Rigg confer on which positions need to be strengthened, and then it's down to Rigg and Marwood to identify targets, bring them to the manager, then sign them.

It's much closer to the Real Madrid or Barcelona style than the autocratic way in which United and Arsenal are run...

That seems pretty sane considering the comments that the men themselves have said.

I quite like this method to be honest.

 

[moomba]

Didn't Mancini say at his first press conference that it would be a joint decision between him and Marwood/Cook etc.

It's a setup that has interested me for a while, I think there is merit in it but not too many British managers will stand for it.

 

[sheikh mansour's bank manager]

Mancini is a normal european coach who is happy to be bought players and work with them a la AJ. it is only in british managers who want to have the full say on who they buy.

 

[leewill31]

i may be wrong but i thought boateng was originally a target of hughes and it may of been common sense to carry on with the pursuit of a quality player?

 

[MCFC-alan88]

It's done by committee - and I'm certain this has been confirmed by Mancini recently. Marwood, Mancini, and technical director Mike Rigg confer on which positions need to be strengthened, and then it's down to Rigg and Marwood to identify targets, bring them to the manager, then sign them.

It's much closer to the Real Madrid or Barcelona style than the autocratic way in which United and Arsenal are run...

That seems pretty sane considering the comments that the men themselves have said.

I quite like this method to be honest.

I do also, it means Mancini can focus on football and not the beaurocratic bull that everyone else has to deal with, but still gets the final say.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Well previously Cookie and co just allowed hughes to have full reign and look what happened there -RSC £18 million, Toure £16 million, Lescott £24 million etc. I'm glad that other people like Marwood have a lot of input on transfers but our manager certainly has a say otherwise Patrick Vieira would not be at the club

 

[sam221985]

the Transfer Politburo (okay, it's called the Player Acquisition Committee, but my name is cooler) consists of Marwood, Mancini and Rigg.

Anyone know if they have to get approval from Cook or Khaldoon or both? Presumably for really big buys over a certain amount they need Sheikh Mansour's direct permission...? Then again Delph wasn't a lot of money and there was talk the reason we missed out on him (what's he been up to anyway? Hardly set the prem alight has he?) was we were waiting on the Sheikh's decision so that's a bit confusing...

 

[Anonymous]

Well previously Cookie and co just allowed hughes to have full reign and look what happened there -RSC £18 million, Toure £16 million, Lescott £24 million etc. I'm glad that other people like Marwood have a lot of input on transfers but our manager certainly has a say otherwise Patrick Vieira would not be at the club

Of course he would have a say, I don't think that anyone would suggest otherwise. The final say? I don't think so...

Viera is a short term solution to a problem which Mancini identified, probably because Marwood and Rigg already know long term who they want for that position.

I also think that the aborted signings of Mariga and Gago were down to the fact that the club probably didn't want either of them long term, so there wasn't a great desire to close the deals quickly. I think there's zero chance of Gago coming in in the summer - which if true - backs up what I'm saying.

 

[MCFC-alan88]

Well previously Cookie and co just allowed hughes to have full reign and look what happened there -RSC £18 million, Toure £16 million, Lescott £24 million etc. I'm glad that other people like Marwood have a lot of input on transfers but our manager certainly has a say otherwise Patrick Vieira would not be at the club

Of course he would have a say, I don't think that anyone would suggest otherwise. The final say? I don't think so...

Viera is a short term solution to a problem which Mancini identified, probably because Marwood and Rigg already know long term who they want for that position.

I also think that the aborted signings of Mariga and Gago were down to the fact that the club probably didn't want either of them long term, so there wasn't a great desire to close the deals quickly. I think there's zero chance of Gago coming in in the summer - which if true - backs up what I'm saying.

The Mariga deal wasn't aborted? he didn't get a work permit.

 

[Anonymous]

the Transfer Politburo (okay, it's called the Player Acquisition Committee, but my name is cooler) consists of Marwood, Mancini and Rigg.

Anyone know if they have to get approval from Cook or Khaldoon or both? Presumably for really big buys over a certain amount they need Sheikh Mansour's direct permission...? Then again Delph wasn't a lot of money and there was talk the reason we missed out on him (what's he been up to anyway? Hardly set the prem alight has he?) was we were waiting on the Sheikh's decision so that's a bit confusing...

There's no question that Sheikh Mansoor will have his own agenda when it comes to acquisitions. That will be that he will want well known world class players. So the Sheikh will say "I want Fabregas, do we need him?" And if that position needs a player, then he will become a target.

 

[Neil McNab]

Kia, which is good because they give 7 year guarantee!

 

[Braggster]

Well previously Cookie and co just allowed hughes to have full reign and look what happened there -RSC £18 million, Toure £16 million, Lescott £24 million etc. I'm glad that other people like Marwood have a lot of input on transfers but our manager certainly has a say otherwise Patrick Vieira would not be at the club

Of course he would have a say, I don't think that anyone would suggest otherwise. The final say? I don't think so...

Viera is a short term solution to a problem which Mancini identified, probably because Marwood and Rigg already know long term who they want for that position.

I also think that the aborted signings of Mariga and Gago were down to the fact that the club probably didn't want either of them long term, so there wasn't a great desire to close the deals quickly. I think there's zero chance of Gago coming in in the summer - which if true - backs up what I'm saying.

Don't agree about Mariga - we wanted him for sure, and it fell through because of the work permit. I would also note that he fits the criteria of a 'Marwood signing' - a young and promising player, not the finished article for daft money.

Re Gago, you may have a point - all gone quiet on that one, so I would suggest that we do indeed have other targets.

 

[Anonymous]

Of course he would have a say, I don't think that anyone would suggest otherwise. The final say? I don't think so...

Viera is a short term solution to a problem which Mancini identified, probably because Marwood and Rigg already know long term who they want for that position.

I also think that the aborted signings of Mariga and Gago were down to the fact that the club probably didn't want either of them long term, so there wasn't a great desire to close the deals quickly. I think there's zero chance of Gago coming in in the summer - which if true - backs up what I'm saying.

Don't agree about Mariga - we wanted him for sure, and it fell through because of the work permit. I would also note that he fits the criteria of a 'Marwood signing' - a young and promising player, not the finished article for daft money.

Re Gago, you may have a point - all gone quiet on that one, so I would suggest that we do indeed have other targets.

Yeah, you're probably right about Mariga. Again, I'm just speculating but maybe he was a player who Mancini recommended, but we didn't secure the transfer earlier because Marwood and Rigg wanted to do their own research on him, so we actually started bidding later than we should have done...

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

the Transfer Politburo (okay, it's called the Player Acquisition Committee, but my name is cooler) consists of Marwood, Mancini and Rigg.

Anyone know if they have to get approval from Cook or Khaldoon or both? Presumably for really big buys over a certain amount they need Sheikh Mansour's direct permission...? Then again Delph wasn't a lot of money and there was talk the reason we missed out on him (what's he been up to anyway? Hardly set the prem alight has he?) was we were waiting on the Sheikh's decision so that's a bit confusing...

There's no question that Sheikh Mansoor will have his own agenda when it comes to acquisitions. That will be that he will want well known world class players. So the Sheikh will say "I want Fabregas, do we need him?" And if that position needs a player, then he will become a target.

Of all the players that we've signed, how many times do you think this has happened?

 

[Anonymous]

There's no question that Sheikh Mansoor will have his own agenda when it comes to acquisitions. That will be that he will want well known world class players. So the Sheikh will say "I want Fabregas, do we need him?" And if that position needs a player, then he will become a target.

Of all the players that we've signed, how many times do you think this has happened?

Robinho and Tevez.

 

[Braggster]

Yeah, you're probably right about Mariga. Again, I'm just speculating but maybe he was a player who Mancini recommended, but we didn't secure the transfer earlier because Marwood and Rigg wanted to do their own research on him, so we actually started bidding later than we should have done...

Yes. That is a very convincing hypothesis. I would not be at all surprised if you were right.

Personally I have no problem with player acquisition being done on a committee basis. More or less means you have to have a foreign manager though - it's a method that is just too much for the poor, put-upon British manager's over-sensitive ego...