Who is Worse

mad4city said:
Gotta agree, Alan Ball was the worst - and by some distance too (which is a heck of statement, when you think about it) .

By the way...
Did anyone else hear the story about how when Colin Bell got injured, Tony Book wanted to sign Ball (as a player, obviously) but Swales wouldn't stump up the cash? That year, Liverpool went on the win the league (and a few European cups, afterwards).
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By then his playing career was in real decline, I might be wrong but I think the following close season he moved to the US League so for once Swales got something right.
 
Alan Ball was shocking - I hope we never have an incompetent twat like him in charge ever again. To this day I don't know what the club were thinking in appointing him.

Hughes won't be anywhere near that bad - because if it carries on like this he'll get sacked before he ruins us.
 
scorer said:
withingtonmcfc said:
he didn't have a clue tactically and his activity in the transfer market was poor.

Whatever Hughes is, he isn't Alan Ball.
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I don't necessarily disagree but... didn't he sign Kinkladze....? A good bit of Business by anyones standards I'd say.
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I'm pretty sure that was Franny's doing. He was questioned about interfering and said that the only thing he'd ever done that could be called such was recommending Kinkladze.

Alan Ball was a shockingly bad manager. He stands out as having sunk far below our usual standards!
 
I thought Franny signed him himself more or less, maybe wrong though. Ball was shite, i wonder if he was in Hughes position now how many would be saying give him time, he will come good...
 
Grimble said:
I thought Franny signed him himself more or less, maybe wrong though. Ball was shite, i wonder if he was in Hughes position now how many would be saying give him time, he will come good...
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Not sure he would have the ability to be even in Hughes position.
 
serious answer to your question, its a close run thing as you can only judge on the what each manager did in their time at the club.

hughes has had 20 games or so, 70mill spent and we are 17th, out of relegation zone by goal difference.

Ball was terrible as we know.

So at this moment in time, they seem as bad as each other.
MH has the luxury of billions of quids to spend and seemingly time to put things right.

I do hope MH turns out better than Alan B.
Otherwise we are well and truly shafted. Dead heat for me AT THE MOMENT.
 
Ball is the worst manager any team at any sport has ever had. It's unbelievable thinking back at some of the things he did.
 
Ball by a mile.

Ball was the only manager that had nothing going for him in the last 40+ years. Bond, Frizzell, Horton Pearce, name anyone, they were still better.
 
kinkladze10 said:
Alan Ball Or Mark Hughes. How much did Alan Ball spend, And how much shit would we be in if Hughes Had no cash.
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If Hughes had no cash to spend we would be in a much better position than we are now. Cash is the problem for Hughes he can't handle the superstars like Elano, Jo and Robinho, but he loves the shit like Benjani and Vassel
 
Mark Hughes Stats

Managerial statistics

G W L D Win %
Blackburn Rovers 15 September 2004 3 June 2008 188 82 59 47 43.62
Manchester City 4 June 2008 Present 27 12 10 5 44.44
G W L D %
Total 215 94 69 52 43.72

Alan Ball's managerial career

Team From To Games Won Lost Drawn
Portsmouth 26-01-1998 09-12-1999 97 28 43 26
Man City 02-07-1995 27-08-1996 49 13 22 14
Southampton 20-01-1994 02-07-1995 67 22 21 24
Exeter 06-08-1991 20-01-1994 135 36 56 43
Stoke 07-11-1989 01-02-1991 62 17 24 21
Portsmouth 11-05-1984 17-01-1989 222 94 70 58
Blackpool 01-07-1980 28-02-1981 33 7 16 10
P W L D
Total 665 217 252 196

Stats dont lie. Can not find the stats anywhere for Hughes as Wales manger. I still think with the money Hughes has spent Micky Mouse could do just as good. Would be Good if anyone could get the MH stats for Wales.
 
I'm sorry but Hughes performance as manager at the moment is worse than what Alan Ball did. Whilst Ball was utter, utter dogshit he had nowhere near the squad that Hughes has got. Back then we were shit and played like we were shit. Now we've got the 5th/6th best squad of players in the league and are performing terribly.
 
After 16 premiership games:

Hughes 18pts
Ball 15pts

Whichever way you look at it Hughes is doing worse with his multi-million pound squad!!
 
jay_mcfc said:
After 16 premiership games:

Hughes 18pts
Ball 15pts

Whichever way you look at it Hughes is doing worse with his multi-million pound squad!!
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Now, i do agree that Ball was the 'worst'. But to say that Hughes is worse whichever way you look it is wrong.
You prove it in your stats there....he's got more points after 16games, so mathematically better.

;-)
 
jay_mcfc said:
I'm sorry but Hughes performance as manager at the moment is worse than what Alan Ball did. Whilst Ball was utter, utter dogshit he had nowhere near the squad that Hughes has got. Back then we were shit and played like we were shit. Now we've got the 5th/6th best squad of players in the league and are performing terribly.
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I don't see how you can make claims like that when we're debating whether Jo (who has made Samaras look good) or Evans (very inexperienced) should start up front against WBA, and we have had one fit orthodox midfielder all season in Stephen Ireland

SWP and Robinho are World Class players, but the squad has some fundamental weakness
 
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